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| Author: | dasmooth [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Getting Active Acceptance, Refreming , Win Frame Battles |
So this one thing is the one thing tht I just haven't fully understood and has troubled me ever since it was introduced to me when I first started learning pu. What im refering to is the topic "Active Frame Control". I understand Passive Frame Control which is simply speaking/talking to the hb tht interests you, n her accepting what you are saying without arguing or rejecting what you are saying which in turn gets you passive acceptance. Now Active Acceptance is a little bit different. Its simply doing things actively/more dominantly without the hb you're talking to not go along and agree with what you are doing. An example would be to touch/move/qualify with statements or questions/lead the conversation in a direction tht I want it to go. Now she's either going to go with it/follow my lead /comply (active acceptance) or she's not. Thts where I have trouble understanding it a little bit. If im not getting active acceptance she isn't attracted to me but gives me passive acceptance? This is tht mix signal shit tht just frustrates the hell outta me. A girl can allow you to hit on/tease her n laugh , where she's then attracted , then you try to either touch/move/qualify n it won't go well n give active acceptance/comply. Maybe it's polite response if she's not allowing the interaction to escalate. But anyways, thts not really near the question im asking; my question is more based on winning the frame n using active frame control to reset the context of the interaction. Frame control in general (including framing/passive /active. Also, everything else) comes down to hoops. Mystery's hoop theory I think goes great to help understand tht the hb in the interaction is trying to impose frames on you/getting you to jump through hoops. In frame battles, how do I know I've won the frame battle when using active frame control/reframing to reset the context.? Does she laugh though she disagrees/submits/agree or comply/gives up n accepts the frame/qualifies herself/fails to break your composure by shit testing you/complies to your hoops by reframing hers? My bad, this is big post of mine tht I've ever made. Sorry if its a bit hard for anyone to understand when reading. It took some time to think through the jumbled thoughts I had on this one topic. |
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| Author: | WillEdward [ Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting Active Acceptance, Refreming , Win Frame Battle |
Having the stronger frame all comes down to being more certain and reacting less to what the other person is saying or doing. The more you practice reacting less, speaking and moving more slowly, and having more confident body language, the more it will become a habit and the easier it will become. You can also break rapport with the girl to get her to react in a positive way by laughing or qualifying herself and having her leaning in. |
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