I can only speak for myself, but I have learned everything there is to learn about pickup and seduction, and I have used it to find myself a girlfriend, not to bed women. I also use pickup techniques in different ways as power techniques to get what I want. For instance, someone "accused" me for using pickup techniques inappropriately (one of those white knights who think this stuff is embarrasing and wrong), and I reframed the whole thing (forced him into my own reality) to make him look like the bad guy. He apologized afterwards, believing he did the wrong thing. That's how I crush my opponents.
