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| Author: | newman301 [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:28 pm ] |
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I dunno, but I'm kind of a firm believer in the direct approach. I get a really strong feeling that girls know instantly that you are trying to hit on them. Like if you're in a bookstore or something and some HB is sitting there reading a book, and you walk up to her saying something about the book she's reading, it just sounds like you're just beating around the bush and holding off getting to the point. Now I'm certainly very very far away from considering myself to be good at this stuff, but my logic tells me that chicks are not complete morons in the fact that they know what you're trying to do. So I figure that the best way is to get right to the point. Something like this when you see a girl in a bookstore: "Hey you're really cute, I just wanted to come over and meet you". BAM, straight to the point. You're not drooling over how hot she is, and you don't have to make up some shit about how you're interested in something that you're really not (unless you really are interested in something else about her). You're just telling her what you think, and why you're talking to her. It's ballsy, honest, and direct. If done with confidence, I don't see getting a negative reaction with this approach very often. Now, keep in mind, I haven't tested it out much yet, because I'm still at stage 1 where I have to rid myself of AA. But when I do finally start working on some approaches after I convince myself to stop being a bitch, that will be how I do it. |
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| Author: | (LoveNothing) [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:35 pm ] |
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I'm new to this, so who knows if I even know what I'm talking about....but I'm really not sure being that direct is productive? Think about it, any hb9's and 10's are being hit on constantly.. Even at the mall, a coffee shop or a bookstore. Inside I feel like I need to disarm them before I lay any of that "youre cute" stuff on her... A woman wants to be chased. (or so I think?) |
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| Author: | newman301 [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:42 pm ] |
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Well maybe if she's super hot, then "you're cute" may not be the best opener, but "Hey, how's it goin?" may be a better one. I still don't like the idea of beating around the bush. I mean, you approached her to hit on her not to talk about some book she's reading, right? What do I know though? I have to test the shit out before I can start saying if it works or not. It's just the theory in my mind. |
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| Author: | Chino Kapone [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:43 pm ] |
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The direct approach will work, but thats probably with hb7's and under. The whole reason there is a pua community is because the direct approach has been done and failed billions of times. Like Love said, you have to disarm the females. The past few girls I have dated always talked about how they nonstop get hit on. Ive been out with them and their phone is blowing up from guys texting and calling, it just happens that way when you are dating hb8's and up. Being a pua is about being different and doing things out of the ordinary that other guys normally wouldn't do. The direct approach may work, but its not like that chick hasnt heard the same thing a million times over already. |
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| Author: | newman301 [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:22 pm ] |
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Well, by direct I mean completely being my natural, charming and funny self. I won't try and act like I'm not trying to pick them up, but I'll display my obviously attrative characteristics. I have a natural tendency to make anyone I talk to laugh their ass off. I'm just a funny, care-free guy. If I could display those natural characteristics to HB10's and shit, I'd be money. Step 1 - overcome the AA Step 2 - test my direct approach theories Step 3 - if that fails, start trying PUA techniques. I used to 'game' hot ass girls when I was like 18 without even knowing it. I remember there was this HB9, April who I just started talking to one day (back then I didn't have AA for some reason, I guess I turned into a pussy as I got older). We were cool, but I thought she was out of my league (I thought all hot girls were out of my league back then), so I never hit on her. I hooked up with a few of her friends, and blew them off because I didn't like them. Little did I know, but this made April want me. I ended up hooking up with my 7-year girlfriend around that time too. One day, April said to me "Why the fuck did you have to go and get a girlfriend, I liked you." My point is that back then I was a natural without even thinking about it. I did what I wanted, and I said it like it was. If I can get back into that state of mind, I'll be golden. My direct approach theory will then be all I need. |
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| Author: | Chino Kapone [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:38 pm ] |
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IMO natural game is the best. The techniques and routines dicussed give the ability to build up your natural game and find whats going to work best for you. If you can just be your natural cocky funny self, you are set. My problem is i put the pressure on myself at night to go out and game some girls and then my game doesnt start to flow until after a few drinks. Teh techniques and some of the lines really help. It gets my game flowing smoothly to where I loose the little voice in my head that is scared shitless to apporach the hbs. |
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| Author: | mozyFresh [ Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:11 pm ] |
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Sometimes the direct approach is good. But you'll soon find its best not to, even with 6's and 7's. If you want to build alot of attraction its best to play by the rules. Keep them guessing and dont make it entirely obvious from the off. If you put yourself on a plate right from the start it doesn't create attraction. Remember people want what they cant have. Focus on building as much attraction as you can at first and you'll have better results. Sometimes you have to appear that youre not chatting them up. |
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| Author: | Fiction dTAJIr8v [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:59 am ] |
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I could be wrong about this, but I think direct approach works best if you walk in and look like you look high status already. George Clooney, for example, could walk up to a girl, tell her she looks incredibly cute and that he wants to talk to her more. If you are a good looking, well groomed and dressed guy, and you walk with a distinct swagger, you can be more direct. Also, I think direct approach would be less effective in bars because it is expected. If you direct approach during the day at the grocery store or something it displays a lot of confidence. |
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| Author: | Chief [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:58 pm ] |
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Study the Gunwitch Method. Check out Juggler, too. |
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| Author: | Chief [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:01 pm ] |
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Step 1 - overcome the AA
There are PUA techniques, styles, schools of thought, etc, that revolve around direct game, such as GWM. Your list of 3 steps has a logical fallacy Step 2 - test my direct approach theories Step 3 - if that fails, start trying PUA techniques. 
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| Author: | Fiction dTAJIr8v [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:03 am ] |
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Quote: There are PUA techniques, styles, schools of thought, etc, that revolve around direct game, such as GWM. Your list of 3 steps has a logical fallacy
Not necessarily. Step two stated he wished to try is own methods. Step three indicated that if that fails then he would resort to traditional PUA methods. He did not claim that PUA methods were entirely indirect, only that his own were direct.I think this is a legit interpretation that would avoid the difficulty. |
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| Author: | newman301 [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:47 pm ] |
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Lol, well I haven't even gotten past step 1 yet, so I have a ways to go. |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:34 am ] |
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I'm curious how you plan to overcome your AA without approaching people. If you're gonna approach, why would you train yourself to overcome that anxiety using one method, then after completely switch to something else? You're gonna end up right back where you started as soon as it doesn't work like it was when you were using the other method. If you're gonna do it, do it, if not, then do what you're gonna do. Get it? |
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| Author: | c_n12 [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:02 pm ] |
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Quote: I'm curious how you plan to overcome your AA without approaching people. If you're gonna approach, why would you train yourself to overcome that anxiety using one method, then after completely switch to something else? You're gonna end up right back where you started as soon as it doesn't work like it was when you were using the other method.
It is fairly simple to overcome AA without approaching people by using psychological tehniques to locate and release your unconcious beliefs which conlifct with your concious goals. Once you overcome those issues at a core level it doesn't matter what method you are using because your fears regarding your core beliefs about approaching women will have been resolved beforehand and you will feel little to no stress or tension about approaching women anywhere.- Chris 
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| Author: | M_blues09 [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:34 pm ] |
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the thing that i noticed is you can't do too much of one thing it all has to be in doses. you can't play hard to get the whole time ur gaming a girl because she will lose intrest and you can't be too direct then you'll scare the girl. theres going to be a point where u will need to be direct but i don't think its good right when you meet a HB. there are points where u can get away with saying i like being with you or when im around you i feel good, it just depends on what you say and when you say it. |
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