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| Author: | Cupid_007 [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | [Infield Video Included] I got rejected BAD & IDK WHY? |
I got blown out REAL bad for the first 2 sets that I approached and I don't even know WHY. That's the sad part. Someone please explain to me why the reactions I got were so poor and even hostile (at the end of the 2nd approach) where the girl was pretty rude and mentioned I was annoying. I would like for this to not occur again but I fail to understand why they all left so quickly after I approached them and would NOT engage me in conversation. My comments and remarks seemed to fall on deaf ears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lk9jZwDS50 |
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| Author: | hugge [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [Infield Video Included] I got rejected BAD & IDK WHY? |
I just watched a few minutes of the first approach. I couldn't hear what you were saying, but I can tell you a few things. Remember that you are a stranger to people, interrupting them. It is quite weird and makes people suspicious. They wonder "who the fuck is this dude?", "what does he want?". It is quite clear that you want something from them, since you approached them, but you didn't tell them what it was. Instead you started some small talk. It's weird. By sitting down at the table you were also a bit too close for them to be comfortable. There are three different ways to go about it that I know. Either stand at a distance, preferrably leaning against a wall as if you are waiting for something. Just don't walk up to them. Make it look as if you talk to anyone who happens to be around. The second way is to be more direct, clear in your intent, and confirm their feelings by saying something like "I know this seems weird, but I need someone to ask". The third way is to offer value as in being enthusiastic about something, funny and interesting. In either case, always make sure to keep that distance! I hope that helped. |
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| Author: | Cupid_007 [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [Infield Video Included] I got rejected BAD & IDK WHY? |
Quote: It is quite clear that you want something from them, since you approached them, but you didn't tell them what it was.
I implied that I was interested in having fun with my statement "You guys seem FUN do you mind if I join?" Maybe this was too much of a hint and I should have made a more clear statement of intent. Which line would you suggest I use in order to explain my intentions?Saying "I know this seems weird, but I need someone to ask" is not my intentions though. My intentions are to have a conversation but this statement implies that my intentions are ONLY to get advice on the matter. I would like a statement that shows a much stronger intent. Furthermore, I explained my intentions later on with "The reason I asked was because...." So I did make my intentions clear. Just not right away. Quote: By sitting down at the table you were also a bit too close for them to be comfortable.
I have tried opening from a distance before. Although they DID feel comfortable, the problem was that I couldn't hear them talking - since they were further away. There were a few other problems as well (2) they didn't feel compelled to respond because i was so far away (but when I approached upclose, the social pressure is on them to respond and they responded) and (3) it was wierd when I suddenly moved in closer - later on for no reason (just imagine me talking + standing far from the table and then moving in closer and taking a seat later on: that won't work because there is no justification to move in closer). But if I get in close right away ( I don't need to find a prextext to move in closer later: instead I project the frame that my close distance is normal).Either stand at a distance, preferrably leaning against a wall as if you are waiting for something. Just don't walk up to them. Make it look as if you talk to anyone who happens to be around. I hope that helped. One thing that I did learn was the importance of admitting if it's weird when it is weird. I'll be using this line in the future "I know this is weird but..." |
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| Author: | neo87 [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [Infield Video Included] I got rejected BAD & IDK WHY? |
First off, props on putting yourself out there I may sound like a dick here but I'm just giving honest feedback. Take your PUA blog and other stuff down, because frankly you shouldn't be giving tips to anyone. A journal is fine, but don't come up with lessons or tips without the success to back it up. And tbh, I couldn't imagine you having much success from your videos. You come across as weird and I can tell from the way people are looking at you that they're weirded out. Going natural is good if you have somewhat of a grasp of girl humor and conversation skills, but from the routines you've made and when you improv, you don't seem like you know how to carry normal conversation. I'd say stick to the simple classic routines if you're using routines, not made up ones...because the airsoft one is just not good. Find some wings and get some tips in real life as well. Maybe someone else can give more tips but i gotta run. |
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