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Author:  Moose185 [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:59 am ]
Post subject:  First date advice. Please help!

I'm meeting a girl on this week for a first date. I met her online and she's seem nice and she's pretty.

I really want to give my best image to this girl. I've never had a second date in my life only first dates so I know I must be doing something wrong. I tend to be quite friendly but I'm not good with flirting. I don't usually kiss a girl either in a first date because either she isn't interested or I'm too shy.

I really need help im approaching 30 and in not getting any younger. I really want a girlfriend. What first date advice can people give me? Like what to wear? Conversation starters? How to close?

Thanks.

Author:  Malcolm Thomas [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:47 am ]
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Here is some excellent advice that I can give you to help you excel at having fantastic first dates.

#1) Stay calm and do not over think your date. Putting pressure on yourself to perform or entertain a woman is never a smart strategy.

#2) While you are on the date, make it your goal to get the girl to do most of the talking. That is how girls start feeling more connected to you.

#3) Begin to lightly touch her throughout the date so that she knows that you are interested in becoming more than just a friend to her.

#4) Always try to invite a girl back to your place for an after party.

Author:  Rebooting [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:54 am ]
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What Malcolm Thomas said. Never stop escalating. Kino escalation. Read up all you can on that and then apply it. And when you DO kiss her (come on, what are you waiting for? it is just a kiss!) don't do so at the end of the date. Too kitch and too much anticipation being built up. It takes a bit of skill, but as you continue to build up your kino, you should be able to kiss her in the middle of the date in a proper natural way.

As for the logistics of the date...
1. It's a first date. You are still getting to know each other. Do something that will allow you both to control how long it gets/when you want to stop it. Like, for example, go for drinks, not for dinner. Everyone would hate to be stuck at a table during a three course menu with some boring, boring person. Plus hey, alcohol!

2. Alternatively, do something AWESOME. You don't have to do all the work, the date itself can help you. One thing I did a bunch of times was to tell my dates to "bring some tight bikini" under their clothes and to take them wakeboarding. Like seriously, who the hell has time for being awkward when you are wakeboarding? Plus the exercise will automatically release some "happy hormones". Either way, ACTIVITY is key here. Hell, even bowling works! (keeps you both busy and thus greatly reduces the chance for awkward silences). Although if it is something you do yourself regularly, the better. Has the added bonus of coming over as authentic, and of you being able to show off your mad skillz.

Author:  BrandonMarshall [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:29 am ]
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You need to flirt and tease her during the date. You need to learn how to attract her and sexually communicate with her. Keep it light and don't try so hard to initiate the perfect convo..

I'd really look into how to flirt with women and how to physically escalate. These are 2 crucial things you're missing right now

Author:  Moose185 [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:44 pm ]
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Thanks for the advice. Is there any links or information on here how to flirt and physically escalate?

Author:  Rebooting [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:50 pm ]
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Thanks for the advice. Is there any links or information on here how to flirt and physically escalate?
bittybanger-on-kino-vt183048.html

bittybanger-on-subcommunication-vt183062.html

Those are some posts I liked about Kino and subcommunication, although the Kino one is more theory and less practise... I really liked how Kino Escalation was explained in the Mystery Method, great read if you have some time. Esentially... Start small. Be passionate. Touch her shoulder to emphasize a point of yours. Hug her if she says she's cold. Hold her hand. Rub her leg while talking. Put your hand on her knee. Kiss her. It requires some practise, but once you callibrate yourself, it will become second nature. Be ITALIAN, man! Touch what you love!

Another important thing to remember when it comes to escalating kino is that it should be done in SHORT intervals, e.g. don't leave your hand awkwardly lingering on her knee until she has time to activate her rational mind and feel uncomfortable, but just leave it there for a short moment while talking. Don't leave your hand on her leg, but stroke it. Etc.

If at some point of kino escalation she seems not to reciprocate it or to seem uncomfortable, pull back one step (again, this boils down a lot to callibration... But for example, I think it is easy to agree on the fact that holding her hand for a moment is below placing your hand on her lap). Continue gaming, maybe IOD and further escalate from there on.

Author:  DrewDating [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:20 pm ]
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get her talking about herself
kiss around the middle of the date
try and end the date at your place ;)

Author:  Moose185 [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:41 pm ]
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I'm totally devestated! We talked for ages about 2 and half hours about everything from where she travelled to her family and her hobbies. I had a really good time but I never touched or kissed her. I just never really knew how to initiate it. plus I don't think she gave me the signs it would have felt weird just touching her over the table since we were talking. I really need help i'm so clueless and probably going to be single forever!

I really need to know exactly what to do on a first date. I always seem to get good conversation with a girl and get her laughing. Please any advice would be appreciated. I'm desperate I can't go on like this anymore.

This girl was everything I would look for she was smart, funny, beautiful she looked like gywneth paltrow very hot in my opinion. I've totally blown it again. I keep doing this.

Author:  Moose185 [ Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:20 am ]
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Does anyone have anymore advice on this? She still hasn't replied. Has she lost interest? She seemed interested on the date and chatty.

Author:  BittyBanger [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:55 am ]
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Sounds like its over bruh. sorry ): Next time be more sexual. Dont look for or awkwardly wait for the perfect moment to reach for her hand over the dinner table. Didnt someone here tell you not to do that. You should of danced with her at the club or teased her and pushed her away from when you were kicking her ass at miniputt. Do something fun and go for her, like really hard, just not creepy

Author:  Moose185 [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:00 pm ]
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If I was to get a second date what would you recommend I do? I've already done drinks so i'm guessing do something different? dinner maybe a movie? I want to do something where I can initiate something. It would have to be a night activity as she works and i'm away this weekend. I'm going to ask her out and see what happens.

Thanks for the advice.

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:26 pm ]
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If I was to get a second date what would you recommend I do? I've already done drinks so i'm guessing do something different? dinner maybe a movie? I want to do something where I can initiate something. It would have to be a night activity as she works and i'm away this weekend. I'm going to ask her out and see what happens.

Thanks for the advice.
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Author:  Moose185 [ Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:39 pm ]
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thanks I've repsonded to it.

Author:  threadstarter [ Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:14 pm ]
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If I was to get a second date what would you recommend I do? I've already done drinks so i'm guessing do something different? dinner maybe a movie? I want to do something where I can initiate something. It would have to be a night activity as she works and i'm away this weekend. I'm going to ask her out and see what happens.

Thanks for the advice.
My first tip to you is something I can't stress enough: find a place where you can sit on a couch side-by-side!!! You can't imagine the difference this makes. I think it's very hard to make kino natural across a table, as you have figured out yourself.

Don't do dinner and a movie. You shouldn't be spending that kind of money on her yet. She might just feel like you're trying to buy her affection. And since you won't be able to escalate things across the table while you're having dinner, no matter what you do or don't do will be awkward during the movie.

For a second date, how about taking her to a place where you can smoke a shisha/hookah? I think it's harder to kino than when you are having a drink, but at least it's a very relaxed environment and I can't think of anything else to do at night either! If you go for this one, remember to find a place where you will be sitting on a couch next to each other!

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