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Author:  sugarwallz616 [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:30 am ]
Post subject:  Can't women make up their mind?
One thing that i notice as i look online at various articles and videos about dating is that women seem to think of a lot men as "chauvinistic" and that we are up to no good most of the time. Than... on the flip side when it comes to "nice guys", they get shit on by these same girls, or "beta male shamed" as RSDTyler would put it. Than when other guys seem to find the balance between the two, women still find it offensive and rude that men would dare approach them... but they end up going for it anyways.

I'm not sure, through my research and "doing my homework" I've found a lot of this, i used to hear women complain about not being able to find that man (that is until i tell them i'm tired of hearing about it), they however continued to make the same mistakes and pin it on all guys.

This all seems like a harmful cycle to me, i know all about the idea of how we as men should act if we want a certain result, but it seems as if unless women find closure in accepting themselves as people with high sex drives and they have no shame in sating their sexual appetites, we will always be pinned upon as bad guys.

Most "naturals" make it look easy, but as I look into it, it begins to complicate itself more than it probably should. Is learning all this theory really worth it or is it just as simple as being fun, and basically just being yourself with no shame?
Author:  Animepic [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't women make up their mind?
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One thing that i notice as i look online at various articles and videos about dating is that women seem to think of a lot men as "chauvinistic" and that we are up to no good most of the time. Than... on the flip side when it comes to "nice guys", they get shit on by these same girls, or "beta male shamed" as RSDTyler would put it. Than when other guys seem to find the balance between the two, women still find it offensive and rude that men would dare approach them... but they end up going for it anyways.

I'm not sure, through my research and "doing my homework" I've found a lot of this, i used to hear women complain about not being able to find that man (that is until i tell them i'm tired of hearing about it), they however continued to make the same mistakes and pin it on all guys.

This all seems like a harmful cycle to me, i know all about the idea of how we as men should act if we want a certain result, but it seems as if unless women find closure in accepting themselves as people with high sex drives and they have no shame in sating their sexual appetites, we will always be pinned upon as bad guys.

Most "naturals" make it look easy, but as I look into it, it begins to complicate itself more than it probably should. Is learning all this theory really worth it or is it just as simple as being fun, and basically just being yourself with no shame?
I think there are a lot of murky waters, when it comes to what society and institutions tell the different genders experience and what they actually do experience.

There's male biology, and then there's the social obligation for men to "feel" a certain way, so he pretends to express these pretend feels. It's a little wonky. Male "love" is the feeling of winning a war/game/hunting/totally dominating. It's straightforward: "I win!" Female "love" is a hormonal reaction, that's put in place for rearing. A similar reaction in a male would be grieving, maybe while on hash. There's a sense of deep attachment and loss of self. It's the similar to how a woman feels about a child.

Because "love" is culturally female and universal, the nice guy feels bad for his attachment-style, while the alpha jerk doesn't.

My problem with nice guys is that they're mean. They're touchy and spiteful, with a capital "spite". Of course, the "alpha male" (I don't really do labels, but okay) are caveat emptor. Women date them and complain about them on purpose.

I don't actually believe in human alphas, because power shifts all the time in our little ecosphere. The truth is, men biologically have to win, and women rear young. As a woman reaches her late 20s, hormones will effect brain chemistry when she hasn't produced an offspring. It's responsible for mental illness, A.D.D, and learning difficulties, and is completely normal. Really, mid-twenties is the latest a woman should start giving birth, and historically, we're the first generation to exceed this. Reciprocated female emotion is a trick of mind to get a woman pregnant: she's primarily an egg carrier.

I'd say be honest with yourself about your biology, and go from there. I don't see how a "Greater Beta" and up could benefit from a monogamous relationship, except legally and socially. Unless you're weak and ugly, short-term relationship options should be everywhere.
Author:  Versalis [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't women make up their mind?
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Is learning all this theory really worth it or is it just as simple as being fun, and basically just being yourself with no shame?
Honestly, it's not far off from that. Being fun, sexual and making yourself as physically appealing as possible will get you about %75-80 of all achievable results, that aren't experience based.
Author:  TheFury [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't women make up their mind?
Quote:
One thing that i notice as i look online at various articles and videos about dating is that women seem to think of a lot men as "chauvinistic" and that we are up to no good most of the time. Than... on the flip side when it comes to "nice guys", they get shit on by these same girls, or "beta male shamed" as RSDTyler would put it. Than when other guys seem to find the balance between the two, women still find it offensive and rude that men would dare approach them... but they end up going for it anyways.

I'm not sure, through my research and "doing my homework" I've found a lot of this, i used to hear women complain about not being able to find that man (that is until i tell them i'm tired of hearing about it), they however continued to make the same mistakes and pin it on all guys.

This all seems like a harmful cycle to me, i know all about the idea of how we as men should act if we want a certain result, but it seems as if unless women find closure in accepting themselves as people with high sex drives and they have no shame in sating their sexual appetites, we will always be pinned upon as bad guys.

Most "naturals" make it look easy, but as I look into it, it begins to complicate itself more than it probably should. Is learning all this theory really worth it or is it just as simple as being fun, and basically just being yourself with no shame?
There is a difference between being an "asshole" and being "alpha". There is a difference between being a "nice guy" and being "beta". The main thing that women don't like about the "beta" guy is that they don't amp things up sexually. That i why they do not succeed. Not because they are nice. Assholes succeed DESPITE being assholes because they at least amp things up sexually.

Really, the distinction should be: "escalates sexually" and "doesn't escalate sexually". My game on 1 on 1 dates is actually being a very "nice guy" but I amp up sexually very aggressively (kino early on, etc.) and always go for the close. But I don't talk like an asshole, or even talk dirty, or anything like that.
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't women make up their mind?
Quote:
One thing that i notice as i look online at various articles and videos about dating is that women seem to think of a lot men as "chauvinistic" and that we are up to no good most of the time. Than... on the flip side when it comes to "nice guys", they get shit on by these same girls, or "beta male shamed" as RSDTyler would put it. Than when other guys seem to find the balance between the two, women still find it offensive and rude that men would dare approach them... but they end up going for it anyways.

I'm not sure, through my research and "doing my homework" I've found a lot of this, i used to hear women complain about not being able to find that man (that is until i tell them i'm tired of hearing about it), they however continued to make the same mistakes and pin it on all guys.

This all seems like a harmful cycle to me, i know all about the idea of how we as men should act if we want a certain result, but it seems as if unless women find closure in accepting themselves as people with high sex drives and they have no shame in sating their sexual appetites, we will always be pinned upon as bad guys.

Most "naturals" make it look easy, but as I look into it, it begins to complicate itself more than it probably should. Is learning all this theory really worth it or is it just as simple as being fun, and basically just being yourself with no shame?
Alpha, Beta, Asshole, Nice guy, Natural, homework.... I say fuck all that...

You’ll learn, as you get older, that rules are made to be broken. Be bold enough to live life on your terms, and never, ever apologize for it.

Never be afraid of what a woman will say? Those who attracted to you will react positively! And those who don’t can go fuck themselves anyway.

Never be afraid to be loud, be afraid to have no voice. Never be afraid of the thoughts of others, be afraid of not being true to who you are. Your own style makes you who you are; don't adopt someone's you’re not.
Author:  AFCToTheMax [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't women make up their mind?
I suggest you stop reading articles and instead go and figure shit out on your own.

As at the end of your post you say it's a waste of time to learn any theories about how woman act and why they act the way they do.

Stop caring about how woman act and instead concentrate on yourself and what you want with them.
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