PUA Forum :: changing your game

In every grouping in society, in this case the academic world, peope have certain traits that give them their identity. There are specific (unspoken) dress codes, behavioral traits, body language, interests, how you speak and whatnot that make you "belong" to the group.

I am at uni in UK studying a very tough academic subject...

Your style depends on you. Find the tribe you are most attracted to and most identify with and then push the limit in that tribe.

What do you lot think of study dates?

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What do you lot think of study dates?

Got laid a few times here and there with those. BUT that was a very long time ago. Again, when the girl is qualifying herself to you, accept. Say something like, "Cool. How did you know that?" or "That's fucking brilliant! You're awesome."

Do NOT say things like, "Your idea is just so dumb, mine is better."

Nice, how did you make the move from study date to bed?
Did you treat it how you would being in a bar?

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Nice, how did you make the move from study date to bed?
Did you treat it how you would being in a bar?

I had no game back in college so it's basically a hit-or-miss thing. I just relied on persistence. With game, just go with 60 YOC stuff, learn some LMR techniques, and you'll be good.

I saw that hb 8.5 today with a group of class mates, guys and girls.
She saw me and she started at my direction.
DO you reckon she is interested?
I really do not want to get rejected again by a girl on my course or someone who I would have to see nearly everyday.

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Judging by this post, I'd recommend going indirect. Make up an excuse to talk to her or ask for her opinion on something relevant to the course material or the school in general. From that point, you can tell whether she's happy that you came over and talked to her or you'll gather that, to her, you're just some random dude based on how she reacts/responds to your question. Also, try not to show too much emotion or agree with everything she says like a bobble-head (example: "Wow! Really?? Me too!!").

Once you've broken the ice, and assuming she's happy you talked to her, you decide whether to go for a number close "Hey, well blah blah blah, so let me get your number." or an insta-date "Hey, you want to blah blah blah?"

But, before all that, remember, don't think about what can possibly happen. You can't predict the future and the past is beyond your control. Let it go. Don't let those thoughts control you.

Author:	jacob palmer [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:39 pm ]
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Hi everyone. I am at uni in UK studying a very tough academic subject and as a result their are not many girls. The girls that are here seem very inexperienced. I have been working my usual game and I would say I come across as much more confident than anyone else I have come across at uni. The girls I have worked my game on have given me significant buying signals and after I approached them they become very guarded against me and completely go of me. Previously I have had hb8/9 show interest and have dated a model before, however at uni I am going through a major major dry spell. In a nut shell the girls treat me much differently than any other guy. An example is a shy girl (who happens to be a 6.5) I recently posted about, basically she has and still gives me very strong buying signals but I have had no luck with her and now she is dating someone else who I would not exactly call an alpha male. The trend seems to be that to date a girl you have to be her friend which is bullshit. I have recently come across a HB 8.5 and I am not sure how to go about her. Shall I go with the alpha male not gonna get friend zoned approach, tell it how it is, cocky and funny approach? or shall I do what everyone else is doing? Very recently when I last saw her, I made eye contact with her and acknowledged her but she turned away. Then I was facing the other way, looked behind me where she was and she had been looking at me and immediately turned her eyes away. Any point in trying as I feel a girl this hot, if interested would give me something to go on? Thanks

Author:	ChimeranPanda [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:03 am ]
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Don't change anything. Hit the gym (helps with brain function too) and do something like Gunwitch method until you build a method that is your own. You are unstoppable. Believe in the method and perfect it; don't let a single girl affect or change you.

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:47 am ]
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The Chief had a thread on something like this. He calls it microcalibration. It had changed my game a lot for the better after I got this insight. The gist goes like this: So you're sarging a girl and what happens next is that she feels you're too good or too handsome for her, so she chooses someone of lesser caliber whom she feels more comfortable with. When you see the nonverbal cues that girls feel you're too good for them, take it easy on the negs or minimize those cocky and funny shit. Moreover, you have to show them that you accept them when they try to qualify themselves to you. Keep your game simple in situations like this. Make the girl horny and escalate towards the f-close. That simple. Cut off the unnecessary fat.

Author:	hugge [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:26 am ]
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You guys (including the comments) have a long way to go it seems. In every grouping in society, in this case the academic world, peope have certain traits that give them their identity. There are specific (unspoken) dress codes, behavioral traits, body language, interests, how you speak and whatnot that make you "belong" to the group. As a PUA, you need to blend in. You cannot just dive in there heads first with some weird, cocky "alpha male" attitude from outer space that attracts stupid 18-years old girls in the clubs. That will alienate you from the group. You always need to adapt to your environment. Besides, you need to look up what it means to be an alpha male, since you seem to have misunderstood the concept. The following is not a definition of an alpha male, it is a definition of a high value male: http://www.traitsofthealphamale.com/77/ ... lpha-male/ To keep it short - an alpha male is the strongest individual of the group, so it is definitely a relative term and changes as groupings change. Most importantly, the strength that you need to demonstrate is not always the same trait. It is a trait defined by the group. In the gym, it is physical strength. On the golf course it is precision, or maybe your abitility to make business, and in the academic world it is intelligence. With other words, tone your game down a bit. Try to blend in and don't try too hard with your pickup. Enter every conversation at the same energy level (same mindset) as the people you talk to, and just add a tad more energy to become the center of attention. Read about pacing to understand this better, or even better pacing and leading - an NLP technique. I find it very interesting that there is such a lack of knowledge about this in the PUA community, since I've learned it myself through the same channels as everyone else. When I look at infield videos from RSD I think they all look like intermediate PUAs, even if they are considered "masters".

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:41 am ]
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Quote: In every grouping in society, in this case the academic world, peope have certain traits that give them their identity. There are specific (unspoken) dress codes, behavioral traits, body language, interests, how you speak and whatnot that make you "belong" to the group. Perhaps you filtered out some key facts in the OP's post. Here: Quote: I am at uni in UK studying a very tough academic subject... The OP is already in. What you're referring to is Role Theory.

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Author:	ChimeranPanda [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:52 am ]
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Yes, the concept of mirroring is crucial and very effective in many settings. M2 wrote fashion-help-needed-please-vt100544.html: Quote: Your style depends on you. Find the tribe you are most attracted to and most identify with and then push the limit in that tribe. Blending in is essential for indirect openers and rapport building. I do very direct game and my idea is that it's not optimal to emulate someone else's tribe to blend in; the better option is to find your best tribe and have your target say, "wow, i want to be part of THAT tribe" if you're doing direct game where you give targets limited time to make a judgment based on your appearance and demeanor.

Author:	jacob palmer [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:13 am ]
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What do you lot think of study dates?

Author:	jacob palmer [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:34 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: What do you lot think of study dates? Got laid a few times here and there with those. BUT that was a very long time ago. Again, when the girl is qualifying herself to you, accept. Say something like, "Cool. How did you know that?" or "That's fucking brilliant! You're awesome." Do NOT say things like, "Your idea is just so dumb, mine is better." Nice, how did you make the move from study date to bed? Did you treat it how you would being in a bar?

Author:	jacob palmer [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:28 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Nice, how did you make the move from study date to bed? Did you treat it how you would being in a bar? I had no game back in college so it's basically a hit-or-miss thing. I just relied on persistence. With game, just go with 60 YOC stuff, learn some LMR techniques, and you'll be good. cool thanks.

Author:	jacob palmer [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:29 pm ]
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I saw that hb 8.5 today with a group of class mates, guys and girls. She saw me and she started at my direction. DO you reckon she is interested? I really do not want to get rejected again by a girl on my course or someone who I would have to see nearly everyday.

Author:	Mr_International [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:44 pm ]
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Quote: I saw that hb 8.5 today with a group of class mates, guys and girls. She saw me and she started at my direction. DO you reckon she is interested? I really do not want to get rejected again by a girl on my course or someone who I would have to see nearly everyday. Judging by this post, I'd recommend going indirect. Make up an excuse to talk to her or ask for her opinion on something relevant to the course material or the school in general. From that point, you can tell whether she's happy that you came over and talked to her or you'll gather that, to her, you're just some random dude based on how she reacts/responds to your question. Also, try not to show too much emotion or agree with everything she says like a bobble-head (example: "Wow! Really?? Me too!!"). Once you've broken the ice, and assuming she's happy you talked to her, you decide whether to go for a number close "Hey, well blah blah blah, so let me get your number." or an insta-date "Hey, you want to blah blah blah?" But, before all that, remember, don't think about what can possibly happen. You can't predict the future and the past is beyond your control. Let it go. Don't let those thoughts control you.

Author:	jacob palmer [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:46 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: I saw that hb 8.5 today with a group of class mates, guys and girls. She saw me and she started at my direction. DO you reckon she is interested? I really do not want to get rejected again by a girl on my course or someone who I would have to see nearly everyday. Judging by this post, I'd recommend going indirect. Make up an excuse to talk to her or ask for her opinion on something relevant to the course material or the school in general. From that point, you can tell whether she's happy that you came over and talked to her or you'll gather that, to her, you're just some random dude based on how she reacts/responds to your question. Also, try not to show too much emotion or agree with everything she says like a bobble-head (example: "Wow! Really?? Me too!!"). Once you've broken the ice, and assuming she's happy you talked to her, you decide whether to go for a number close "Hey, well blah blah blah, so let me get your number." or an insta-date "Hey, you want to blah blah blah?" But, before all that, remember, don't think about what can possibly happen. You can't predict the future and the past is beyond your control. Let it go. Don't let those thoughts control you. Ok thanks. I already have a method of going indirect with her which I will do. Shall I escalate the kino as well? i.e high fiving her and holding/caressing her hand etc... or is that too direct?

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:19 am ]
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Good Game: How to Know if the Girl is Qualifying Herself to You Verbal Samples with Verbal Acceptance Girl: You're so good in math. I used to be a Quiz Bee champion in high school... Blah, blah, blah... [Girlie qualification.] You: Cool. That's awesome. So what did it felt like when you won the championship? [Acceptance of girlie qualification.] Girl: (Catches you stealing glances at another girl.) Her make up is so over the top. I prefer subtle hues since it brings out the natural beauty in you. [Girlie qualification.] You: (Looks at girl and then eye fuck.) Now I notice. You're right. Your natural beauty is much more appealing to me. [Acceptance of girlie qualification.] Nonverbal Samples with Nonverbal Acceptance and Mirroring 1. Turns her back on you, bumps her ass from left to right or bends over, and turns again to face you with a cheeky smile. (Smile back and then turn your back on her, twitch your ass a few times, and then face her again.) 2. Bends over in front of you to showcase her cleavage. (Don't ogle her cleavage. Slowly bring your hands down to both of your jean's pockets and triangulate your cock with your 8 fingers while your 2 thumbs are tucked in.) Bad Game: How to Know if You are Qualifying Yourself to the Girl Girl: Soda sucks. I don't like Pepsi. You: Yeah, you're right. Me too. I don't like Pepsi. Girl: That jock over there is so awesome! You: I used to be a Quarter Back in high school... Blah, blah, blah...

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