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Author:  chazman0426 [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:51 am ]
Post subject:  Where did I go wrong?

Hey guys I just met this girl online and I was trying to get to know her more and see if the game worked online. Apparently it didn't on this one. Did I do anything wrong? Maybe this is a one time bitch.



coolchaz0426: yes way
curiousheather20: no freakin way
coolchaz0426: I would give you my b day but it's personal info since I
don't know if your really 20
curiousheather20: alright
coolchaz0426: well it's april 25th
coolchaz0426: I trust you enough
curiousheather20: mine is july 17th
coolchaz0426: almost 21
curiousheather20: party like a rock star
curiousheather20: can't wait
coolchaz0426: I do that anyway
curiousheather20: but i already do that
curiousheather20: lol
coolchaz0426: you don't have to be 21 to party and drink
coolchaz0426: just at bars you do
curiousheather20: i do at bars anyways lol
coolchaz0426: good
curiousheather20: been doin that since 18
coolchaz0426: high five
curiousheather20: thanks
coolchaz0426: so heather why are you horny
curiousheather20: i am all the time
curiousheather20: it's fun
coolchaz0426: are you hot and bothered?
curiousheather20: oh yea
coolchaz0426: lol
coolchaz0426: so what do you hope to accomplish online
curiousheather20: ummmm don't know yet
curiousheather20: haven't found it yet
coolchaz0426: so I take it your fairly good looking?
curiousheather20: well...i got guys all over me in the clubs lol
coolchaz0426: and you look curious all the time
curiousheather20: i guess i am hot
coolchaz0426: and I'm sure you brush these guys off
curiousheather20: i keep only the one's that can keep my interest
coolchaz0426: thats how it works
coolchaz0426: but heather
coolchaz0426: are you interesting
coolchaz0426: ?
curiousheather20: yes
coolchaz0426: really....
curiousheather20: do u think i am?
curiousheather20: u must
coolchaz0426: I dunno yet
curiousheather20: ur talkin to me
coolchaz0426: because i'm trying to decide if you are interesting
coolchaz0426: name one interesting thing about yourself
curiousheather20: what the hell kinda question is that
coolchaz0426: a legit question, if your so interesting prove it
curiousheather20: i don't have to prove anythin to u
coolchaz0426: lol so your not interesting
curiousheather20: yes i am
coolchaz0426: just something unique about yourself
coolchaz0426: ok welll then
coolchaz0426: I guess if you can't find something unique about yourself
coolchaz0426: most people can
coolchaz0426: your a first
curiousheather20: ur mean
coolchaz0426: no hun i'm just trying to make convo
curiousheather20: ur trying to make me mad
coolchaz0426: now why would i want to do that?
curiousheather20: because ur bored
curiousheather20: ur in a bored room
coolchaz0426: so I'd want to make a girl mad
coolchaz0426: ?
coolchaz0426: ok
curiousheather20: ur bored
coolchaz0426: ok I'll admit that but I don't want to make you mad
coolchaz0426: I just wanted to learn something interesting about you
coolchaz0426: I try to get to know the people i talk to
coolchaz0426: apparently you like the attention you get from guys that
ask the same old questions
curiousheather20: no
coolchaz0426: I was looking for someone more interesting than that
curiousheather20: then go talk to someone else
coolchaz0426: pleasure meeting you


Re-reading it I found some points where I could probalby improve but for the most part I didn't know how to handle "what the hell kind of question is that?" because I've never gotten a response like this from a girl. Most girls comply and name something interesting and ask the same question back. Any tips on how to handle this bitch behavior online and in person next time? I'm still learnin.

Author:  Overcoat [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:03 pm ]
Post subject: 

I'd say don't push it so much. I think she probably was out for picking a fight. Sometimes it's hard to work out how someone means something online. But I think don't push it too much. If she doesn't offer anything after a push or two then move on, next topic.

Author:  .EnVy. [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:12 pm ]
Post subject: 

Wow, I don't know where to begin...lol.

Alright, it wasn't BAD. Because sometimes, online game CAN (at times) be
very difficult, depending on the situation. So no worries, you seemed to handle
things alright, I guess.

Okay, here's the thing. Telling a girl to name interesting things about her shouldn't
just come up at the spur of the moment like that. What you did was just TRY
to get something out of her, and girls don't respond well to that (consciously
AND subconsciously).

Here's how I would have said the line: "So, other than the fact that you're "hot,"
tell me...what makes you different from all the other girls?"

Possible negative response: "Wtf kinda question is that?"

Reply: "Well, what I'm saying is that Sure, you're pretty,
but beauty is really common these days. I've dated some of the prettiest
women before. Hell, I've probably dated some people you may know! Haha.
But it's actually the personality that shines through. Now tell me, what
separates you from every ordinary pretty girl?"


The KEYYYYYYY to A3 questions like that, is to ask them in A3. You didn't
demonstrate any value at first. If the girl does not reply to the compliance
test ("Is there more to you than your looks?" line) then that means you
have not yet demonstrated enough value. She does not feel invested in
you, and doesn't want to qualify herself to you, because at the moment,
you have lower value than her.

Here are some of the main points:

Let's say your value and hers add up to 1.0.

*Opening:

Your value: ~0.2
Her Value: ~0.8

*Neg + DHV

The negs lower her value and the DHVs raise yours

Your value: ~0.7
Her value: ~0.3

A3 (qualification)

Now you need HER to qualify to YOU

Your value: ~ 0.6
Her Value: ~0.4

Comfort:

Then, in comfort, you need to show vulnerability and SLIGHTY lower your
value by showing weekness (Hey, you're only human, right? You have the
right to show emotion).

Showing vulnerability is done by telling a story where you were weak at
one point (for example, you cried because you were heart-broken to see
your little brother gettin surgery because you loved him so much) Something
like that usually works.

Anyways, after the story:

Your Value: ~0.5
Her Value: ~0.5


When you guys have the same value, you can "pair bond."



Anyways, those numbers might be a bit confusing, but it makes more sense
if I use graphs lol.


So, overall, you didn't demonstrate enough value. There was no kino
('cause it was on the the net). Body language is hard to calibrate over
the internet. And there were many restrictions on you, but it's okay. I'm
sure with a bit of experience on the internet, you will be able to tell if
she likes you or not. I recommend going IN FIELD to sarge, but whatever
makes you more comfortable, stick to it.

Oh, and one other point: You ALWAYS need to be non-reactive. If she gives
you a shit test like "wtf kinda question is that?" then you need to NOT SHOW
and emotion. You seemed to have been qualifying yourself to her too much,
and she just assumed that you were another guy. An AFC.

BUT, I REALLY liked how you stood up for yourself. By saying something
liked "A legit one." That's a good response. Props.

Oh, and nice way to end. "Then go talk to someone else!"
"Pleasure meeting you :)"

Very nice. If you would have been like "FINE FUCK YOU, BITCH!!" Then
she will be like "Hm, it's a good thing I got rid of him. He's an ass hole!"

But by being polite and leaving, she'll have a sense of loss.

Hope this helped, buddy.

Author:  chazman0426 [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:13 pm ]
Post subject: 

hey Envy, that piece of advice really helped. Lol what actually happened was I just left it alone for 10 minutes and then I went back and said "sorry I don't suck up to girls like most guys do who ask the same old questions" "have a good night" and she responded saying "please stay, I didn't mean to be a bitch" to which i was suprised because I guess she was playing but online it looked really offensive so thats why I hate gaming online but I went out on friday night (I'm in college) and there were no parties what so ever so I stayed inside and practiced online game to make up for it. Otherwise I usually go to college parties and practice. I ended up talking to this chic for 4 hours and I ended the convo because I was tired and gave her my e-mail we'll see if i hear back but thanks for the advice! I know what to do next time.

Author:  .EnVy. [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:45 am ]
Post subject: 

Quote:
hey Envy, that piece of advice really helped. Lol what actually happened was I just left it alone for 10 minutes and then I went back and said "sorry I don't suck up to girls like most guys do who ask the same old questions" "have a good night" and she responded saying "please stay, I didn't mean to be a bitch" to which i was suprised because I guess she was playing but online it looked really offensive so thats why I hate gaming online but I went out on friday night (I'm in college) and there were no parties what so ever so I stayed inside and practiced online game to make up for it. Otherwise I usually go to college parties and practice. I ended up talking to this chic for 4 hours and I ended the convo because I was tired and gave her my e-mail we'll see if i hear back but thanks for the advice! I know what to do next time.
Good stuff, man. Yeah, parties are a great place to sarge. Just don't sarge any
girls that you see every day, because if you screw up, then it will stick with
you and next time you see that girl, she's going to remember you fucking
up. So if the girl doesn't know you,who cares if she knows you fucked up.
You're never going to see her again, anyway right? lol

Glad I could help, bruh. Take it easy.

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