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Author:  IaintPerfect [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:27 pm ]
Post subject:  she books a hotel, (I'm scared of LMR) HELP

Hello guys.
I recently met this HB8 at collage, in fact we study together. Immediately, after meeting her I started applying a number of PUA techniques such as , cube, Push-pull, negs, eye contact, etc.
We went out a couple of times, (we study at the library sometimes or have dinner somewhere out). I managed to kiss-close her, when we go out I tend not to kiss her all the time (so I dont look really desperate), however she reciprocates to my kino. We see each other once a week, she texts me all the time . I act like I am the prize and passively answer her messages.

Interestingly enough, we decided to spend Christmas together and travel somewhere far for few days. She booked a hotel, including airplane tickets. I bet she knows what I am after and what could happened ( but she insists that I am her 'best friend' /she knows me for a moth or so/ . lol )
The reason why I haven't invited her to my place is that I live with my family and simply it isnt suitable.
She states that she has got a boy friend(he lives abroad in her native country), and I am the second person she has ever kissed in her life.

My concern is How to approach her when we get to our hotel. I am afraid of LMR. We will ideally spend three nights together, I dont wanna mess up. I was thinking of some tactics , for instance not doing anything sexual during the first night and then gradually get her wet. Or kiss her for a long enough time (15-20mins) and then strike.
I wanna realize her sexual dreams; (oral, or anything she has dreamt of). I want her to associate me with orgasm. But, eventual LMR really freaks me off.

What are you thought on this .
I will be highly appreciative if you could tell me how to handle the up-coming situation.

Author:  Redlight [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: she books a hotel, (I'm scared of LMR) HELP

Hey man, her saying that you are her "best friend" and yet kissing you and going away with you for a Christmas trip is just her rationalising what is happening... she's convincing herself that it's allright to spend time with you and she's not cheating on her BF... incidentally, I don't think that there is a girl in a long distance relationship that does not cheat on the BF...

Set the frame from the start that you are a MAN and she's a WOMAN... no sexless friendship allowed...

Next, I will "recycle" one of my earlier posts about LMR that got good feedback, hope it helps...

1. freeze-outs: basically you interrupt the making out and change the mood of the interaction completely... when she stops you from escalating further, you cut the make-out and start to check your phone, go to the restroom, turn on the lights... some 10 minutes later, you re-start making out and escalating... wash, rinse, repeat until you f-close...

2. agreeing with her: when she says "we're not having sex tonight" you agree with her "it would be totally wrong for us to have sex tonight" while escalating further... this confuses her, and in the same time sets the frame of the "forbidden fruit"...

3. reverse escalation: you get her to touch you, nothing is off limits, this will get her in the mood faster than if you are the only one doing the touching...

What is equally important is what NOT TO DO... here it goes:

1. Trying to convince her with logical reasons, will only allow her to find more reasons not to sleep with you

2. Telling her whatever she wants to hear (e.g. that you are interested in a relationship) when you are lying about it... this will put you in the douche-bag category...

3. Acting offended about her rejection of sex; it's different than a freeze-out, which comes of as casual and aloof... being offended will show her that you are reactive and weak...

Author:  Tr@veler [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: she books a hotel, (I'm scared of LMR) HELP

Watch Alex from RSDs videos.

Act cool, when you are alone in the hotel make your move slowly but surely. Maybe she will hit you with LMR, maybe she won't. But don't forget the definition of the word LMR. It's just Last Minute Resistance. Not Rejection. Resistance. This means she wants it, but has barriers, which you overcome.

The greatest factor for overcoming LMR is TIME. TIME will build comfort. TIME will build trust with you. She may hit you with LMR, in which case you go 2 steps forward 1 step back for as long as it takes. Alex shared with us that once it took him 6 hours to get past LMR as he lay in bed with a girl. He went for it over and over, she resisted the entire time. He then went to sleep, and in the middle of the night she woke up and they fucked.

I haven't had such bad LMR, but just keep trying, staying playful, trying again. That's all there is to it. It's just a push and pull game at the end of the day. Just keep staying persistent whilst being playful the entire time. Never take it seriously, because it isn't.

Author:  IaintPerfect [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: she books a hotel, (I'm scared of LMR) HELP

In fact, she recently had a birthday. So, I promised to her that I will surprise her soon.
I was thinking of Cunnilingus (oral) , or you think I am a bit extreme.

Author:  Tr@veler [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: she books a hotel, (I'm scared of LMR) HELP

Quote:
In fact, she recently had a birthday. So, I promised to her that I will surprise her soon.
I was thinking of Cunnilingus (oral) , or you think I am a bit extreme.
That's a great present.

Author:  Redlight [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: she books a hotel, (I'm scared of LMR) HELP

depends how you plan on getting there... if you arrive at the hotel after an uneventful dinner and you casually say "I have a present for you, lay back, lift your skirt and drop them panties", this may backfire... think about escalating to get there...

Author:  IaintPerfect [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: she books a hotel, (I'm scared of LMR) HELP

Quote:
depends how you plan on getting there... if you arrive at the hotel after an uneventful dinner and you casually say "I have a present for you, lay back, lift your skirt and drop them panties", this may backfire... think about escalating to get there...
Well, I certainly won't approach her in that way. However, thanks for the explanatory answer. I firmly agree, pretending that you are willing to end the make out is definitely a good strategy.

Author:  neo87 [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: she books a hotel, (I'm scared of LMR) HELP

Get some wine and it's a rap. Drink a little to kill her guilt, kiss and just go from there. Don't overthink; she wants it.

Author:  IaintPerfect [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: she books a hotel, (I'm scared of LMR) HELP

Thanks neo87, I was also thinking of wine.

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