PUA Forum :: Kiss close too soon?

If u meet up again with this chick, kino escalate her during the date to get her in the right frame for a kiss. Don't wait till your back at her place to go for the kiss. If she likes kino then the kiss should be a foregone conclusion and expected. Not knowing how flirty you were being on the date, it's possible that she may have been surprised with the kiss.

I'm sure you were already planning to do this but on the walk, hold her hand, put your arm around her etc, sit down on a bench, be playful, flirty, kino a bit, kiss. Don't worry about whether or not she has a bf as u said she never mentioned it. It's not our job to ask every girl "do you have a bf" - you're playing it right & like you said it doesn't seem that all is lost. If she isn't into your playful advances, next her.

The problem was more she didn't feel attraction.
Getting attraction is a conglomerate of many different aspects of game.
-Building tension
-Solid sub-comms (laser eye contact, voice tonality should be going in a down fasion, being physical in a natural way)
-Speaking with her in a man to women type way
-Physical escalation (if you weren't upping the physical escalation, then its liken to jumping to a different continent as opposed to a puddle)

Ofcourse she might just not liek you sadly. It happens to the best of us. You seem like a pretty cool guy so don't worry about this one chick. If it happens over and over again, then we can assess where the problem lies. Good luck with her anyway

-goundy

Did you build up towards the kiss? maybe previous hand holding, hugs?
Nevertheless, your answer to whether it was too soon or not will come if you get the second date.

Hey, I had a date with a chick tonight. We've texted for a while and tonight I asked her out. It was all cool, we went to a cafe, talked all the time, no awkward pauses, she laughed all the time etc.. Then I walked her to her place and gave her my phone saying "insert the magical numbers here", and she entered her number. It was all cool, except for when we were in front of her place. We hugged and I went in for a kiss, when she moved her head to the side and just said "No.". It was kind of sharp and all I could think of was "I have problems with my hearing", she laughed but again said "Haha, but no." Could it be that I went too fast, or? No signs of a BF, so...

Author:	Kirov [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:16 pm ]
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Hey, I had a date with a chick tonight. We've texted for a while and tonight I asked her out. It was all cool, we went to a cafe, talked all the time, no awkward pauses, she laughed all the time etc.. Then I walked her to her place and gave her my phone saying "insert the magical numbers here", and she entered her number. It was all cool, except for when we were in front of her place. We hugged and I went in for a kiss, when she moved her head to the side and just said "No.". It was kind of sharp and all I could think of was "I have problems with my hearing", she laughed but again said "Haha, but no." Could it be that I went too fast, or? No signs of a BF, so...

Author:	LeoTheory [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:50 pm ]
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You went in for the kiss at the right time in my opinion. But the question is did you physically escalate whilest talking in the cafe? Making her laugh too much diffuses the sexual tension that gets created between you. Sorry to say it be you might be recieving the dreaded LJBF text sometime soon.

Author:	Kirov [ Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:20 pm ]
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Development, I've cut contact with her, but now 3 days later she texts me again, any tips on how should I act. I'll just pretend it didn't happen but anything else in general you can advise me?

Author:	TheFury [ Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:21 pm ]
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Keep building attraction. You must have not attracted her enough and/or misread her signs. Don't worry about the kiss, worry about making her attracted to you.

Author:	oceanx [ Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:16 am ]
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If u meet up again with this chick, kino escalate her during the date to get her in the right frame for a kiss. Don't wait till your back at her place to go for the kiss. If she likes kino then the kiss should be a foregone conclusion and expected. Not knowing how flirty you were being on the date, it's possible that she may have been surprised with the kiss.

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Author:	Kirov [ Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:33 pm ]
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Quote: If u meet up again with this chick, kino escalate her during the date to get her in the right frame for a kiss. Don't wait till your back at her place to go for the kiss. If she likes kino then the kiss should be a foregone conclusion and expected. Not knowing how flirty you were being on the date, it's possible that she may have been surprised with the kiss. you might be right, analysing the meeting, I wasn't escalating enough and jumped straight to a kiss close. If I set up another meet, it'll be for a walk, I guess. we've had an agreement for a second going out during the first time, so I'll just bring the topic in a few days's time, texting isn't working too good for us. at least she opened up and I think not all is lost, my only concern is her actually having a BF, but she didn't mention it so it's false until proven otherwise

Author:	oceanx [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:02 am ]
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I'm sure you were already planning to do this but on the walk, hold her hand, put your arm around her etc, sit down on a bench, be playful, flirty, kino a bit, kiss. Don't worry about whether or not she has a bf as u said she never mentioned it. It's not our job to ask every girl "do you have a bf" - you're playing it right & like you said it doesn't seem that all is lost. If she isn't into your playful advances, next her.

Author:	goundy [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:41 am ]
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The problem was more she didn't feel attraction. Getting attraction is a conglomerate of many different aspects of game. -Building tension -Solid sub-comms (laser eye contact, voice tonality should be going in a down fasion, being physical in a natural way) -Speaking with her in a man to women type way -Physical escalation (if you weren't upping the physical escalation, then its liken to jumping to a different continent as opposed to a puddle) Ofcourse she might just not liek you sadly. It happens to the best of us. You seem like a pretty cool guy so don't worry about this one chick. If it happens over and over again, then we can assess where the problem lies. Good luck with her anyway -goundy

Author:	Kirov [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:23 pm ]
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Quote: I'm sure you were already planning to do this but on the walk, hold her hand, put your arm around her etc, sit down on a bench, be playful, flirty, kino a bit, kiss. Don't worry about whether or not she has a bf as u said she never mentioned it. It's not our job to ask every girl "do you have a bf" - you're playing it right & like you said it doesn't seem that all is lost. If she isn't into your playful advances, next her. Yup, that was my idea, thanks mate!

Author:	Kirov [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:25 pm ]
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Quote: The problem was more she didn't feel attraction. Getting attraction is a conglomerate of many different aspects of game. -Building tension -Solid sub-comms (laser eye contact, voice tonality should be going in a down fasion, being physical in a natural way) -Speaking with her in a man to women type way -Physical escalation (if you weren't upping the physical escalation, then its liken to jumping to a different continent as opposed to a puddle) Ofcourse she might just not liek you sadly. It happens to the best of us. You seem like a pretty cool guy so don't worry about this one chick. If it happens over and over again, then we can assess where the problem lies. Good luck with her anyway -goundy Thanks for the advice dude, I'm still new to the game so it's all welcome, also thanks for the encouragement! Good luck in your game too

Author:	Cdharders [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:47 pm ]
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Kiss her on the date not at the end. You needed more attraction for sure, possibly more commonalities. Made the mistake of waiting til the end MANY times. It rarely ends good. Plus, if you wait til the end to try for the kiss, you are already shooting yourself in the foot because you aren't going for the f-close. Why wait a date? Get laid ASAP! You never know whether you'll see her again!

Author:	r0cky [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:19 pm ]
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Did you build up towards the kiss? maybe previous hand holding, hugs? Nevertheless, your answer to whether it was too soon or not will come if you get the second date.

Author:	Kirov [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:13 pm ]
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Quote: Did you build up towards the kiss? maybe previous hand holding, hugs? Nevertheless, your answer to whether it was too soon or not will come if you get the second date. I'm pretty optimistic, not gonna force it though. Her texting me first leads me to believe that she's still interested, so I'll just go for it. Thanks for the advice dude.

Author:	musclepua [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:23 pm ]
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Quote: Hey, I had a date with a chick tonight. We've texted for a while and tonight I asked her out. It was all cool, we went to a cafe, talked all the time, no awkward pauses, she laughed all the time etc.. Then I walked her to her place and gave her my phone saying "insert the magical numbers here", and she entered her number. It was all cool, except for when we were in front of her place. We hugged and I went in for a kiss, when she moved her head to the side and just said "No.". It was kind of sharp and all I could think of was "I have problems with my hearing", she laughed but again said "Haha, but no." Could it be that I went too fast, or? No signs of a BF, so... I haven't read the other post, but any time you face resistance in one stage of the game, its because of something you didn't do at a previous stage. You probably just have to build more attraction / stage 1 kino escalate a little bit. Also, I find mystery's kiss close is useful for avoiding awkward rejections. It goes: PUA: Would you like to kiss me? If: Woman : Yes Kiss her If: Woman: Maybe PUA: I guess we'll find out Kiss her If: Woman: No PUA: I didn't say you could, it just looked like you had something on your mind. I've never had a bad experience using it.

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Author:	hugge [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:50 pm ]
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If a girl looks at your mouth when you talk is usually a good sign that she wants to kiss you. Don't try if she doesn't. And from the terrible movie Hitch with Will Smith, the "90% rule" is actually quite good. Go 90% of the distance to a kiss, and wait. Then it's up to her to go the other 10%.