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Author:  Silver_Lancer [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Flaked twice, then said she wanted to go out...
I've been gaming this girl. She flaked twice during the last couple of weeks. Last night she sent me a text saying "I'm so bored! Wanna go out!" I did not had my cell phone with me and only saw the text 2 hours later, when I was going to bed. I was like "wtf?! she flaked and now expects me to drop everything?! why would she sent me this otherwise..." Time to build value and social proof, then. So I just answered "Haha! And I'm out partying". Less than a minute later, she asked "Where you at?" I did not answer. If I was out clubbing why the fuck would I be paying attention to my phone?

What do you guys make out of this? And how should I proceed? Ask her out again or wait to see if she makes a move?
Author:  R.C [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flaked twice, then said she wanted to go out...
So you decided it was better to stay home and lie rather than go out with her in order to "build value" ?


She already flaked twice , then she tried to reschedule...in a way.

"I'm already out but I'll probably be done in about 1 hour. Be ready."

There you go , social proof , value , and date. And the possibility of getting laid.


My point is that building social value won't help for shit if you're never gonna actually see her.
Author:  Silver_Lancer [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flaked twice, then said she wanted to go out...
In retrospect it may have been a mistake.

Still, I was trying to prove a point, she flaked twice already, and now I'm supposed to drop everything and go when she calls? What am I, her fucking puppet?

Anyway, what's done is done. How do I go from here?
Author:  R.C [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flaked twice, then said she wanted to go out...
You're not dropping everything if there's nothing to drop.

You're acting like you've barely managed to get this girl on X dates (barely because of supposed over-the-top flakiness on her part).But that's not the case. So where's the unwarranted frustration coming from ? It makes no sense.



I'd wait a day or 2 and see if she attempts a reschedule. If she doesn't ,I would.
If she flakes , next.
If she flakes with reschedule , go.
If after 1st date she's still overly flaky , next.
Author:  Silver_Lancer [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flaked twice, then said she wanted to go out...
She did it again last night!

Saw her in the midle of last week, asked if she had plans for the weekend, she said no, I said neither did I so she should call me if she wanted to meet up.

Yesterday evening she texted me "You're going out tonight?"

me: "maybe. You?"

she: "don't know"

me: "wanna go for a drink?"

she: "humm... where?"

me: "x-place, y-place, z-place (naming a few bars in our area). Or you make a sugestion"

she: "do you think (another female friend of ours) is down?"

me: "don't know. Text her and find out ;)"

she (after some 20 min.): "She is with her friends"

me: "O.K. so... you wanna go out or not?"

she: "It's no fun if we're just two. Who else should we call?"

me: "don't know. Still, just the two of us beats staying at home. Even if we just go for a coffee"

she (after almost two hours, although it may have been a delay in the service provider, because the timecode on the txt didn't match): "I don't know if I want to dress up and go out just for a coffee lol"

me: no response

Any toughts on what went wrong here? So far I have three theories:

A) she wanted to party and really didn't want to hang out with just one guy

B) she wanted a chaperone, and flaked because the other girl flaked

C) she was desapointed when I mentioned "just a coffee", but my first option was to go for a drink, and even gave her the chance to pick the program, so that's probably not it.

I have previously hang out with both girls (concert), did some kino with both, concentrating on this one, but didn't close or escalated as much as I should because the other girl was with us. Still, she responded well to my escalation and was closer to me every time we were together after that.

Can someone tell me what went wrong and how can I do it better next time?
Author:  R.C [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flaked twice, then said she wanted to go out...
Quote:

she: "It's no fun if we're just two. Who else should we call?"
Says it all.
Author:  pumpington [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flaked twice, then said she wanted to go out...
game a different girl, this girl is not lookin good for you, she might be a good option to meet friends through (as in try to hook up with her friends but not her)
Author:  Xoved [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flaked twice, then said she wanted to go out...
Exactly as pumpington said, befriend her and she could help you, she could even become your wing.

You weren't even dominant, you let her choose the place, you told her that it was ok calling other people, you ask for approval for going out. She doesn't see you as an alpha male.

If you're still determined to go for her, cut contact and work on your inner-game and try again not less than a week or two.
Author:  Silver_Lancer [ Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flaked twice, then said she wanted to go out...
I know. Still trying to fine tune tha "alpha" part.

This is my last try with that girl: did-i-do-right-what-do-i-do-now-vt167246.html Way too alpha, borderlining an arrogant cock.

She is sick today and called me so I would warn our teachers. Assuming I'm going cold (wich I am) do you think I should start the ice SPAM right away or text to check on her and cut her off when she is better?

If I start now, she will miss me when she is more vulnerable.

If I start later, she will remember I was there when she needed.

What is the best strategic option?
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