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| Author: | Arsenal [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Approaching Women Outside Your Racial or Ethnic Group? |
Do any of you 'sarge' women that are outside your racial or ethnic group? Is it all the same or is it more difficult? If its difficult, is it not worth the trouble. I date 90% within in my own race but that's not by design but by circumstances. I like all women no matter what racial or nationality they are as I find beauty in everyone. Since most women tend to date within their own racial groups, should your approach change? Should you look for more IOIs (indications of interest) before going forward? |
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| Author: | xfman [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:09 am ] |
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No, It doesn't matter. Sometimes that might be an advantage to you , because your different , your the exception of the rule and that is a PUA the exception from the rule. |
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| Author: | TheIcon [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:18 am ] |
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I come from near the huge town of montreal and all my family roots are based in north of quebec, canada they are all townfolks so when i go pay a visit to my family i allways use the same tactics when i try to pick up chicks...talking about the so nice life of montreal and they are amazed because they rarely talk to a urban dude....girls love guys different from what they normally see... you dont know how muck it was easy to fuck a girl when i was out to france...or in vaction in the south |
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| Author: | Arsenal [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:45 pm ] |
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thanks for your responses but I can't agree that its just as easy to 'sarge' women of different ethnicities or races. The examples given were close enough in similarity that it didn't matter as much. I know french speaking quebec is culturally (and linguistically) different than say Ontario and under some circumstances its an advantage but its a disanvantage in some circumstances. For instance, a black guy sarging a cowboy bar in Alabama? A Pakistani sarging an Indian group or an english guy sarging an irish set in Belfast. Due to some poltiical/religious history some sets are going to be harder to sarge in theory...or do I have it all wrong? |
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| Author: | Shaft [ Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:56 am ] |
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I had problems with trying to sarge Asian women. I think I even posted it in a field report. I basically had an awesome date with this hot asian girl, then we went out to the club with her group of friends, who were all asian and ya.. basically I was getting shunned from the group nomatter what I tried... they blocked me out of their dancing circle... there was other shit but whatever, racism is everywhere I guess. |
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| Author: | Arsenal [ Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:53 am ] |
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I lived in Asia for 2 years and I would not recommend 'sarging' any ethnic or racial group where you don't know the customs and what their level of english proficiency (or whatever you speak) may be. Sometimes you don't know but there are clues that can give you a good idea. I'm talking about other ethnic or racial groups within your city or country that are 'westernized' or are proficient. |
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| Author: | Monkey [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:20 am ] |
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Ok... FUCK YOU!!! I am an equal opportunity pick-up artist. I will sarge a woman of any ethnic or racial background with reckless abandon, and shame on you for expressing that it should be done any other way. If nothing else, the differences in cultural upbringing should be used as a springboard of interesting conversation. If I were a huge African-American from Harlem, I would make it a point to go and sarge every cowboy bar I could find. And I would wear assless chaps and a orange cowboy hat just to make a fucking point. Gods, why would you want to put limits on your sexual adventures like that? Imagine the things you could learn from experiencing a variety of cultural sexual differences... The Kama Sutra was written in India. The Manual of the Simple Lady and the Wonder Book of the Chamber are both Chinese... Some of the most accomplished sexual instructors in history are from cultures other than Western European. Imagine what your next lover could have learned through cultural experience... Discrimination... Implied, sure, but discrimination none-the-less... |
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| Author: | Arsenal [ Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:16 am ] |
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lol...'The Art Of War' was written by a chinese general and that transcended eras as well as races and in it, it says to know your enemies strengths and weaknesses. Not all women can be sarged the same way. I disagree. Cultural differences has to be taken into account. I've dated different ethnic groups and approached some differently because of cutlural isssues, same with women of different socio-economic levels. Some things are the same and shouldn't be changed...confidence for one. All women the world over love confidence, also the center of attention thing that is discussed, that transcends every woman as well, but different cultures have different sense of personal space. Try getting too close too quick to someone from Asia for instance and you'll lose out faster than some who are aware of it, for example. No discrimination implied or meant...simply formulating the best strategy. No general fights all battles the same way. To borrow another timeless work on strategy, The Prince by Machiavelli, he says sometimes you have to be the fox and sometimes the lion. |
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| Author: | Monkey [ Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:53 am ] |
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Quote: No discrimination implied or meant...simply formulating the best strategy. No general fights all battles the same way. To borrow another timeless work on strategy, The Prince by Machiavelli, he says sometimes you have to be the fox and sometimes the lion.
Exactly, no general fights all battles the same way. Ever. Not even in broad generalizations. There can be no generalizations. Every single person you interact with has to be treated differently, and dividing those differences along expected racial or cultural lines is dangerous practice.By dividing along broad lines that apply to perhaps 60% of any given racial/cultural demographic, you're making a huge mistake. You're implying that sarging Asian women differs from sarging Caucasian women in specific ways, which is patently untrue. Each Asian woman and each Caucasian woman will have different personal requirements from her prospective mate. To put a racial/cultural spin on it is, plain and simple, discrimination. |
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| Author: | xfman [ Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:48 pm ] |
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I think we all have to adapt the game to our situations, and our own society. But I think woman psychology or way of acting in certain situations , can be generalized and put into a method that works with every single woman in this world; with the correct adaptation. In USA girls tend to be more open minded than in Mexico , so I can't use the lesbians opener but I adapt and use other openers. But I still think the base of the game is teasing and that works in every society. |
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| Author: | Arsenal [ Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:32 pm ] |
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This may sound like a dichotomy but someone once told me "all women are the same, but each one is different" ALL women, no matter race, ethnicity, nationality or class LOVES attention for instance. But you're nuts to think you can 'sarge' an American girl, Japanese girl and a Niegerian girl the same exact way. My question was to address different ethnic types within the U.S. or within your own countries. Its not racist or discriminatory to ask if a black person should sarge a set of white women or asian women the same as he would a black women set or a white guy sarging a group of black, asian or latino women the same. Maybe you can but common sense would suggest otherwise. That was all my post was trying to determine. |
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