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| Author: | socialdesign [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | SPAM IOI'ing or just comfortable? |
Let me just start by saying this is not a "how do i make her like me post" its a "im wondering what shes thinking/help me understand" Right so, im not really new to the whole community, I lurk, and I get what I want from it. But, im still an afc at heart. So anyway, my question. It may sound a bit oneitis, but im just trying to give info. Ive been living with this girl (plus another who isnt relevant) for 3 or 4 months now, were good friends, and messed around one night before we decided to live together. Were pretty open with each other about sex life etc. We flirt a bit, but so does everyone, but, the other night we spend 7pm - 6am chatting/ enjoying some dvds, and it just seemed to escalate, ALOT of kino [arm round her, touching her back stomach after her having asked me to, hands etc. and im not talking pussyfoot 1 second touches.] , and iois thrown my way, along with promised "2nd days" [running together, im going to teach her to swim, and watching a movie together every week] but theres also this guy thats away travelling that she talks to all the time, who she is convinced ~(or appears to be) she will end up with when he returns. I dont know whether its just she feels really comfortable with me like a brother? or whether theres interest and she just wants me to take control of the situation, rather than ride backseat to this guy returning from travelling. oh and one more thing, our lease runs out june, but she asked me to live with her again next year. |
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| Author: | Dempsey [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:04 pm ] |
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Well i really don't know much girls who did stuff like that with their bros. I don't see the problem here, if you feel like you want that shit, go for it. But be prepared to lose somethings if you screw up. PROs VS CONs buddy. play on playa |
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| Author: | PUA to be [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:51 pm ] |
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Yep Dempsey is correct. If you want her you have to risk loosing her as your freind now you got to think to ur self and see if its really worth loosing her as a friend.... |
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| Author: | socialdesign [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:10 am ] |
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Im always on the side of taking the risk. The pros far outweigh the cons, but im not quite sure how to escalate out of the current situation |
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| Author: | Dempsey [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:25 am ] |
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In order to escalate to the next level just do it the way you would do to any target...i assume you already have comfort... basically you should be moving on to more intensive Kino...if she starts to object to this just reassure-->escalate intense kino, reassure-->rescalate. keep doing that...if you breakthrough you're in. To escalate effectively change the scenery...don't do this where you would normally hang out...just ask her out on a day and make your move. |
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| Author: | socialdesign [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:51 am ] |
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Alright, have to forgive me on my newbishness here, I can escalate, but reassure? quick example? not quite sure what it is in game context. |
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| Author: | Dempsey [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:34 am ] |
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IF you escalate you only need to reassure her in the case of her Resisting...and i think you should reassure anyway because it will make it easier and whatever you choose to do will feel like the right thing to do..so by reassuring her it will be easier for you. nothing major..just shit like 'this is what feels right for the BOTH of us, so there is NOTHING wrong with 2 people who want each other having eachother' shit like that. |
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| Author: | socialdesign [ Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:40 pm ] |
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Right well, figure this one out if you can. We were both out with a group of friends last night, and so this morning she came into my room to talk about the night before. I pulled her into my bed to chat to her, [with arm round her etc] We chatted for awhile, then a delivery arrived, and when I was getting back into bed with her she asked me why i wasnt opening it [LMR?] but anyway, She fell asleep after awhile chatting, but when she woke up, and we somehow got onto the topic of her thinking shes fat, and she was like "here feel here" etc, making me touch her stomach back and legs, I made her do the same to me to prove shes being daft. She blamed the fact she feels thin to the touch on her tights [lol] so she guided my hand, when i said where do they come up to, to her waistline, then pulled her tights down saying "i wear them this low with skirts" moving my hand further down. Didn't go any further than this, we just sort of lay there for a while, while i was stroking her stomach under her shirt. Then she decided she better get up and do something (wed been in bed all day, it was 3pm) another note is that she mentioned the guy traveling before i escalated, i just ignored it and carried on with whatever we were talking about. That was yesterday, and shes still talking to me like she did before. Only explanations I can come up with are. a- she doesnt think anything of it apart from innocent flirting. b- she doesnt think she should do anything because of us being SPAM c- shes too umcomfortable to say "stop" thoughts? I dont know really whether to escalate again, or use push pull. |
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