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| Author: | Youth Riot [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I'm Confused (An IOI Situation) |
I'm trying to understand something here because by analyzing a lot I'm still not certain if a girl that I'm talking is interested in me or not. See, I think I'm kinda like a hopeless romantic. I'm pretty confident in getting play if I really wanted to. I'm 19 years old and I feel like I'm just getting to my peak. I feel better than ever and I still know that I can be so much better to the person that I want to be. I have had various opportunities but it's usually the personality (or lack of) of the girl that disinterests me from ever talking to them. I'm pretty picky and that explains the lack of sex in my life for about 10 months now. I'm usually around girls and some of my good friends are girls. I'm pretty sure that I can hook up with them due to their flirting and one of them telling me so but I don't take that chance. I'm not really looking to scam. At least not now for the moment. I'm not sure if I even want a relationship either. I guess I'm just looking for some type of connection that can be fun and exciting in some sorts you know. I can maybe have that with some of my (girl) friends but I don't want to mess with their lives because one as a kid and a man you know and I'm friends with him too. Haha anyways, I started a new semester in college around September and my eye quickly caught the attention of a certain girl from the minute she entered the room. It was really weird because I felt like I had a "Wayne's World" moment with Dream Weaver playing in the background. She sat right next to me in class and I thought that was great. I then started seeing her almost everywhere I would go. I saw her in Lincoln Rd (South Beach) on Halloween night. I then went to Advisement office the college campus and she was there! I went to a small art convention in school and she was sitting 3 seats away from me! When ever I would go to the math lab, I would end up seeing her. If I would enter the bathroom, I would see her leave the women's side. To me it was crazy. Coincidence? I'm not so sure. I don't see anyone as much as I have seen her. I guess it's too long to make the story short but I always had a feeling that she kinda digged me. We would always laugh at practically the same things in class and I think she took noticed at that. She would make reaaaally small talk about school like "Did you study?" or stuff like that. I felt intimidated by her so I would give her very short answers. Eventually she asked me if I liked art because she would noticed that I was at the art convention. Then we started talking about art and after class we started talking for about 20 minutes before I left. The next class, I waited for her and we started talking after class again. She got really shy in this conversation. I would see little red circles in her cheeks and she would laugh so much as if she was really nervous. I have no idea what I was doing for her to be like that or whether or not I should take that sign as a good or bad thing. The only two things that I got out of that conversation was that one: she is pretty insecure and shy for a 22 year old and two: she told me that she has a boyfriend who lives in Orlando. She was very hesitant in telling me that she had a boyfriend. She didn't want to tell me why she would go to Orlando (she takes a bus to see her boyfriend) but I had an idea and kept asking her until she gave in. I asked her if the distance is a problem and she said that it's a big problem. I don't know whether or not I should take that as an IOI or not. After her telling me that, the convo got kinda weird because she just became so shy. The next class was going to be the last class. We were taking finals in that class. I was planning on getting her number in that class. She comes in and she gives me this really nervous smile as a way of saying hi. She finished first and she got her things and she kinda looked at me and smiled and walked away before I could even say anything. I had already finished my test so I turned it in and went to look for her and I never saw her. I felt bummed out. The next day I didn't have to go to school but I did anyways to look for her. I figured that if I see her whenever I'm there then I'll be sure to see her then. I went to the math lab and to my surprise I see her minutes later. She signs in and then sits 3 seats away from me. I wonder... WHY? Why couldn't she just sit next to me? And if she didn't want to talk to me then why couldn't she just sit in the many available seats that were away from me? Anyways, what I don't like about this girl is that she will never take the initiative to say hi unless I do. Once I do that, she starts her small talk and then it leads to a conversation and that's what happened in this class. We were talking about her art and what she likes doing and our jobs. I know it wasn't the best topics to talk about but I just don't know with this girl. Finally, I told her that I wanted to keep in touch with her and she said "have my e-mail I check it everyday." I said alright and wrote it down. I take it that she's either too shy to talk on the phone or something. Honestly, I really did not expect to write this much crap so I can't blame anyone if they don't decide to read it. I would greatly appreciate if anyone has the time to do so though because I need help. I guess I had a lot of my mind because I really would like something with her. It's just that her shyness really confuses me as to whether or not she digs me. It's just odd and I feel like a dork. |
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| Author: | 96Firebird [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:09 pm ] |
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What I got out of it... She showed interest in the beginning, but as she started to get comfortable with you she felt weird about it because she has a boyfriend. Some girls don't think they can become friends with guys when they have boyfriends, just happened to me recently. I'd say move on, but I know she is your one-itis for now and that doesn't seem fit with you. |
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| Author: | Youth Riot [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:27 pm ] |
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Well, what I got out of her situation is that I don't think she's happy nor satisfied with how relationship is going especially since it's long distance. She gave me her e-mail too so I think I should take that as an IOI. Which brings me to this: How should I write my e-mail? I do planning on writing to her but I'm not sure if I should wait a couple of days or what to even write in the e-mail. I'm bad when it comes to writing. |
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| Author: | saqchek [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:47 pm ] |
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Dude, your pissing me off with all this dancing around. Quit being a fucking pussy (and she senses this too) and tell her you enjoy talking to her and to meet up with you for coffee/ice cream/drinks so you guys can chat and get to know each other. Give her your phone and tell her to input her number. Tell her, don't fucking ask. Be in control. Your lack of being a man shows how very insecure you are and that you aren't very confident. Women want a real man, not a whimpy one too scared to ask and waiting for the planets to align so he can ask. Either get her or let somebody else have her. Your choice. |
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| Author: | Youth Riot [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:03 pm ] |
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I didn't mean to imply that I'm a overly confident person. I think I'm confident in doing something when I put my mindset in it and I think it's great that I can learn so much more about myself because I still feel like I'm only starting to know myself. I explained thoroughly this situation because it's a different case with her. I don't really feel that confident with her because I get mixed vibes. If I knew what I was doing then I wouldn't be making this thread in the first place. I'm kinda overwhelm too because she's 22 and I'm 19 and I've never been in a kind of situation where the girl is 3 years apart from me. I think my problem is that I'm over analyzing it and when she gets shy it makes me shy inside. I'm just looking for help in ways of getting over it. |
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| Author: | saqchek [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:31 pm ] |
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Quote: I didn't mean to imply that I'm a overly confident person. I think I'm confident in doing something when I put my mindset in it and I think it's great that I can learn so much more about myself because I still feel like I'm only starting to know myself. I explained thoroughly this situation because it's a different case with her. I don't really feel that confident with her because I get mixed vibes. If I knew what I was doing then I wouldn't be making this thread in the first place. I'm kinda overwhelm too because she's 22 and I'm 19 and I've never been in a kind of situation where the girl is 3 years apart from me. I think my problem is that I'm over analyzing it and when she gets shy it makes me shy inside. I'm just looking for help in ways of getting over it.
Quit analyzing shit. She is a female and you are a male. That's the only two things that are of importance. She desires to have sex, and so do you. The objective is really easy. The objective is to get her to have sex with you without feeling like a slut. It's really easy. You comfort them, and you seduce them. Trust me, she wants to have sex just as much as you do. In fact, she wants it more, but can't say so because of the social conditioning.Now, do you want to have sex with her, or do you want to watch some other guy come up and be a real man and take that? If you watching some other guy up on her while you fantasize what it would be like fucking her is ok in your book, then by all means continue down the path you are going. Just walk up with the right frame and say....."You know [insert name], I really enjoy chatting with you over the course of this semester, but I really haven't got to know you as a person. I'm having (drinks/coffee/ice cream) later tonight so meet me at 7pm so we can get a chance to talk some more".......hand her the phone and tell her to input her number so that if something comes up, you can call her or she can call you. (have her call her phone in front of you) |
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| Author: | saqchek [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:32 pm ] |
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The key to getting a woman is not fearing that you'll lose her. Even if you lose her, there are 1,000,000,000 women on the planet. |
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| Author: | Youth Riot [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:10 pm ] |
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I don't think you're getting me though. I'm not just looking to have sex with her. I wouldn't be writing a really long thread if that was the case because I wouldn't find it necessary. I guess I'm not that desperate yet or into having sex as a lot of people that around my age are. I'm looking for something more then that and I do see myself having that little something more with her.I have noticed from our talks that she's pretty shy and sensitive (which makes me wonder if something in the past happened to her because she's so beautiful). Honestly, I don't like that in a girl because I don't want to watch out with that I say naturally. My whole problem is that she's really shy and so I'm finding trouble if some things that she says or does are IOI's or not. |
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| Author: | saqchek [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:37 pm ] |
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Quote: I don't think you're getting me though.
Doesn't matter what you are looking for. You still need to be aggressive and go after what you want. What I said still applies.I'm not just looking to have sex with her. I wouldn't be writing a really long thread if that was the case because I wouldn't find it necessary. I guess I'm not that desperate yet or into having sex as a lot of people that around my age are. I'm looking for something more then that and I do see myself having that little something more with her.I have noticed from our talks that she's pretty shy and sensitive (which makes me wonder if something in the past happened to her because she's so beautiful). Honestly, I don't like that in a girl because I don't want to watch out with that I say naturally. My whole problem is that she's really shy and so I'm finding trouble if some things that she says or does are IOI's or not. Besides, how do you know you want a LTR with this woman? You don't even know her for goodness sakes, so what makes you want something more. How about you start with sex, and then work your way towards something else if that happens to develop. Think about this. If she cheats on her boyfriend with you, she'll cheat on you with somebody else. That sound like a quality LTR to you? Right now, you're just making a bunch of excuses and not acting. |
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| Author: | Youth Riot [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:12 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: I don't think you're getting me though.
Doesn't matter what you are looking for. You still need to be aggressive and go after what you want. What I said still applies.I'm not just looking to have sex with her. I wouldn't be writing a really long thread if that was the case because I wouldn't find it necessary. I guess I'm not that desperate yet or into having sex as a lot of people that around my age are. I'm looking for something more then that and I do see myself having that little something more with her.I have noticed from our talks that she's pretty shy and sensitive (which makes me wonder if something in the past happened to her because she's so beautiful). Honestly, I don't like that in a girl because I don't want to watch out with that I say naturally. My whole problem is that she's really shy and so I'm finding trouble if some things that she says or does are IOI's or not. Besides, how do you know you want a LTR with this woman? You don't even know her for goodness sakes, so what makes you want something more. How about you start with sex, and then work your way towards something else if that happens to develop. Think about this. If she cheats on her boyfriend with you, she'll cheat on you with somebody else. That sound like a quality LTR to you? Right now, you're just making a bunch of excuses and not acting. |
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| Author: | saqchek [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:27 pm ] |
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If she's opening you up, it's an IOI. Run with it, or don't. |
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| Author: | Pumper [ Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:42 pm ] |
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AMEN |
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