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| Author: | RemyTheRed [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The Proclivities of Game. |
Prologue: Hey Remy here just giving my take on what I've learned and what I've come to understand in the last 2 grueling months of sarging. I've been sarging seriously for about a year on and off before that I read alot of material, but I was still ambivalent about the community, game, what kind of man I wanted to be and whether or not I could step into the shoes of PUA. My game was pretty decent when I was younger(I'm 26 now), but after a major depression(over a girl that didn't even like me). I doubted everything, lost confidence and seen the world thru crap colored glasses. So after 2 years of sulking, attempting and failing at self help. I decided, "shit lemme just press the reset button." Fuck the friends thou hast, fuck that weak conception of self, My mental thought was "shit people do it all the time"(reinvent themselves) and the first thing I was gonna fix was my relationship with women in my life amongst other things. To shorten the story up that was last year, been on and off till the last two months, me and a friend went hard. here's what I've come to understand: 1. Player lines vs Line that will get the job done I used to think "being" PUA meant being a player. So in my newb-ness I took everything that I read and rooted it into a player mentality. what's so bad about this? You end up not pulling the girl and you look like a player. Things like showing disinterest, vagueness, lack of effort made my ego feel cool when talking to a girl, but always ended with me alone. Telling a girl playfully to shut up for a sec works but use it lightly. Bouncing girls from IHOP is a great way to see for yourself a place where it is critical to put forth effort to get girls to your home anything less will get u nada. Of course keep everything else in perspective. Also saying things like a player protects your ego cuz you know you sound like your giving a line and she reject the line not you in your head. 2. Self Deprication vs Not carring David Deangelo states never to use anything self depricating. I am somewhat of a savy geek in alot of ways, I also very ghetto cuz that's where I grew up. So I figure I would play those things up at times, thinking it couldn't hurt. WRONG. It okay to use the axioms and prototypes of personality, but it all depend on how you convey them. Some of the approaches I was doing incorporated the geeky side of my persona and as a "didn't care move" I would say a DLV un confidently, thinking "I don't care" so watch how you "DLV," Besides there are a ton of funnier ways to show that you don't care. 3. Simplify When I started I read everything. Advanced stuff, like the spirituality and deep inner psychology to game. Which is funny because after my recent success I realized how unprepared I was to receive that stuff. For example Cockfunny or Blueprint are meant to enhance your game to the next level or change your style, but you will only be able to comprehend, but not understand what they are saying to you. The main problem is that the concepts though heard have no reference experience to root in. I used to think "well I asked this girl for directions, now leme think how I could've done that cocky..." and it the same with lame dipping your toe in the water pick ups. You won't able to understand till you start doing I would say as low as 15 approached you will begin to understand. Right now I feel Mystery Model is all I need and nuts and bolts are auto correcting themselves infield or when I think about them the next day. With that said I find the material out there extremely helpful after you get the basics down to fine tune and build the kinda person you want to be. 4. I though I loved talking to people What could be wrong with this? is what I though as I chatted down this 7.5 at IHOP, I showed her the cube, she told me about her cats, I must be in comfort right, yep I'm doing my thing. NOPE. My wing was texting me the whole hour we were there to bounce them to my house. I was searching for the right time, but in the mean time I was chatting her up and loving our interaction. Later that night after we were unsuccessful my wing informed me that I looked like I was in love with the VALIDATION so much that moving it to the next level didn't cross my mind. Often what it looks like is what it is. I realized I thought I was getting somewhere but really I lost myself and forgot why I was @ IHOP at 3am and it definitely wasn't the pancakes. Never get lost in things going well, that you don't escalate. It can be a safe haven to keep doing what you are doing if it's working, but don't forget to get those cheeks. 5. Any foot hold is climable I learned this in minor attempt at day game the day after IHOP. When opening with a Q or a comment. If a girl says anything more that she needs to answer the Q you are good to go. If she doesn't then keeping talking till you get in or blown out. Long story short I thought the girl went to my elementary school, I asked she said No, she said I'm from NY.. Blah blah blah. BINGO! started talking bout NY. then after the small talk is done escalate to more personal Q or a complement. It prolly sounds basic, but i almost over looked it. SIDE NOTE: I find that any girl is susceptible to a complement, but 6, 7, 8's, are most receptive early on. with 9 and hypothetical 10's and neg or two is in order early then you can complement. Not absolute just what I've seen 6. Choding out It is always possible to chode out, generally after a long spree of good nights you will find a night goes horrible do to acting like a chode. From what I've seen it goes with Not being in the moment or mood to sarge. All the greats prolly have already found an effective way to avoid choding out. Me personally I used the fact that I've been to really lame parties where it's me and my friends just making the most of it. When your in a club or bar, it's pretty lame because you, your wing and a bunch of assholes(at first). So once you realize that between the two of you, you have to make a good time of this. It realeases that expectation that you need to be PUA or have to make this "FUN." and just let's you start doing things as if they didn't matter. I also personally take to the dance floor by myself which does wonders, sometimes I'll just use an opener either way it's pretty easy for me with the aforementioned mentality. Find a good anti choding mechanism, THAT YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE, not some self help wusah! phrase. 7. Opening looks easy as shit after a few sets go well or even bad. You basically think WTF was I thinking, then every bad set is like w.e and every good set is like I told you so. IMO it's the single hardest "move" in pick up for a noob beside a minaj et trois. When My wing open a set first in that night I sometimes found myself thinking I wonder what he said to open that, but I quickly remember that when you are hot you understand that anything opens a set. Anything. With that understanding let me say the best thing to open a set I've found is a cocky funny comment(see David D.) Unless you can explicitly see something that would open better, cockyfunny is just good pick up edicate lol. Probability that it will get you a good reaction is pretty high, you might fuck it up later, but that's on you. 8. Equillibrium between you and your wing is important. Often times my wing is just there to party with me. Some night when we started going out we found that one of us would be on fire and the other would be as cold as December. Why? Ez answer Spectatorship. Instead of watching me or vice versa the other person need to be at the very least getting blown out so that when your wing comes back your energies match. But if you do nothing, even if you wing gets blown out his state is more alert, elated, and active that your. This perpetuates unless the inactive person gets lucky or does something drastic, If you guys drove together their a chance one might not get laid because of other. Tic tat method we use works for us we take turns in worst case. Most times you don't need your wing to distract and obstacles if your target likes you. So we just wing if we both see something we like, we are seperate cells and do not share a dick, but we are team. So keep in mind synergy. 9. Nightgame becomes Daygame After going out in succession and you being to grow even the slightest, the bloodlust of the night will not be enough and you will being to sarge during the day on instinct. Before the gap in how a man can act between the two was tremendous, but after doing some day game I realized their is no gap. Maybe a slight alteration here and there. The same rules apply and mentality. "I want and Ima try." In a store or in class small talk/opener > complement > try to be normal > ask about her > let her yap, if she challenges you sock her or don't play her games > definitely get some kino handshake (formal or kid n play) > "what do you do for fun?"> Give me your number/ put something cool in my phone/ w.e , If your going to get rejected it's gonna happen either way so don't ask, tell her, or maybe get an insta-date. Do not fear your own success. 10. Being too Cool Sometime when I start my night and get blown out or it's just me on the dance floor going nutz, Guys on the sideline will give me a funny look like look at this try hard any plethora of things said about pick up artist. All they do is dance hesitantly in proximity of girls and then seldomly nut up and attempt to grind. Now I'm come from a alpha culture and alot of my friend are macs or smooth or very hood. Rhode Island is primarily minorities, I say that to say this, we have alot of smooth bros and shit load of Jersy kids the go to URI, there's is plenty of just cool people here(competition.) But most gets what handed to them in the club or bar or whoever they meet through social circle. I'm pulling girls while they watch because they are 2 cool to try and fail or they want to be a smooth operator or they need a sign from the girl or they didn't goto the gym or any of the other lame excuses guys make, but the guys who get laid massive, they'll tell you this isn't ballet it's alot more like breakdance you got to get in the middle and make a move. I used to be 2 cool and when i see a dude trying to get girls, I used think this guys is a weirdo or try hard when he failed, but when he succeeded,I thought well he coaxed that girl, but after consistently seeing it I understood that he is doing something not normally done by guys, which is trying. Of course it's not going to be elegant, it's going to be brash, awkward and going to be a little off, but after I found PU realized I could do the same and with guidance rather having to figure it out on my own. That being said don't do a bunch dumbshit, instead be practical and go in. In the looks department girl have told me I'm like 6 or 7 maybe 8 If they like bald men. 5ft 7 And i'm still getting more numbers, more interaction and ultimately sex than these sexy flexy ass dudes. Don't get me wrong no matter what any guru tells you looks matter. My wing is practically a model and he'll get alot more attraction initially > hence he can say more dumb shit and not get blown out, so his learning curve I perdict is going to be less steap, But end of the day when anyobody's game is tight they can easily get girl. Moral of the story Don't be to cool to try. Finally I learned saying something is always better than saying nothing. All the beta behavior one might exibit needs to be examined under the microscope and that person needs to be rhetorically asked "is this how I do things?" You don't need to be a jock to or 6ft tall to be alpha, You only need to know what you want and go for it. I'm finding that slothful, half assed attempts, though easy and safe don't coincide with my new direction. Once you understand AND EMPLOY this philosophy this the smaller components of game will still be hidden till you find them, but generally the grand design will obvious. These words are as much for me as they are for any of you I'm not some pretencious asshole who get state from telling other people what to do on the forum. Thanks for reading and if you see something that you deal with on the list I would love to hear how you cope or get beyond that issue or whatever. PEACE. |
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