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| Author: | danthedan [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | If a girl doesn't look at you... |
Discuss the following argument: 1) A girl will only sleep with a guy if she finds him physically attractive. 2) Physical attraction is instant, so if a girl is ever going to find a guy sufficiently physically attractive to sleep with him, as soon as she encounters him she will find him physically attractive immediately. 3) If a girl finds a guy physically attractive immediately, she will look at him, i.e. sneak looks at him, stare at him, ogle him, smile at him, blush when she catches his eye, etc. 4) Therefore: if a girl doesn't look at a guy, she doesn't find him physically attractive enough to ogle him and hence will never find him physically attractive enough to sleep with him, so she will never sleep with him. 5) Therefore: if a girl doesn't look at a guy, he has no chance with her and he would be better off not wasting his time trying to chat her up when she is clearly not interested, and never will be. 6) However, if she looks at him a few times she is probably interested and he should obviously go in for the kill! |
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| Author: | Dissonance [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:09 am ] |
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I read your post and I was thinking the whole way through…no..no…no..no! Take my advice like you should all advice….with a grain of salt and learn from your experiences. But seriously don’t even think about that stuff. It does not matter at all. IT IS ALWAYS ON. You will never know if she is into you or not from the very very start. If your trying to tell if she likes you by hoping she will look at you then really your hoping to get a validation. A validation that will (in your mind) improve your chances on a cold walk up. To me this suggests that you don’t want to get shut down. Dude let them shut you down. Let them say with daggers looking right at you “get the fuck away from my friend!”. And when you can walk away from that with a smile on your face completely unaffected then your on the right track. Inner self my friend..keep him happy all the time. If you show anger or feel it that means she had an effect on you. When in reality man you don’t even know her so why would you care at all? But if you just want a simple answer: Attraction is very complicated and not just based on physical attributes. Physical attraction is one thing. It also comes and goes if you open your mouth with the wrong words, voice tone, mannerisms…..the list goes on…. This is stuff you should be paying attention to once you have spoke to her not whether in choosing to speak with her. All ways go in for the kill. |
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| Author: | Lava [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:13 am ] |
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This raises the argument of wether looks matter. Yes they do, a girl can spot a guy and be attracted to him because of his looks. Yet, personality and dominance are the much bigger attraction switch. The girl I'm dating (nearly 3 months now) is an 8.5 minimum most guys will agree. Some wonder how the f*** I got her. When I asked her, she told me I don't have great looks but always find me cute because of my personality. Most girls will tell you that personality is the biggest turn-on. The thing with physically attractive guys, their perception of meeting women is different to an ok looking male. Think about it, those guys never had to work hard or as hard as physically less attractive guys to meet girls. Sometimes girls would throw themselves at them which results in their perception to women being insensitive to them. They didn't have to work hard to get the girl so why would they respect and appreciate her, those good looking guys know that those girls only liked their looks, this results in them hurting a lot of women or when the majority of women find out soon that those guys don't have great character (because they believed they didn't need a reason to have good character to meet women) eventually bore women. They are as insecure as less physically attractive guys. If I had a choice between looks or game, I would choose game. Ask any woman if they had a long relationship with a guy purely because of his looks. Yes, they're lucky they don't have to work hard for the approach, but they missed out on developing game. I am yet to meet a good looking guy (no homo) that has great game. The same applies to men who have money. I don't want to go on about how its better to find a girl who accepts you for who you are, but less attractive guys definitely failed a lot more and therefore learned more, thats the key in game. |
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| Author: | charblad [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:24 am ] |
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1) nope 2) nope 3) yes 4) nope 5) nope 6) yes If Brad Pitt walked up to a girl and said "hey fat cow lets go fk in my trailer" would he get the women? but wait isn't he physically attractive? don't all women love him? If physical attractions all you need why wouldn't that work? You're only asking one side of the questions. Physical attraction isn't instant, if your wearing a parka what's she going to be attracted too? What if your face is normal but you have a 6-pack she can't see because of your shirt? What if your HUGE down there but she never finds out? You can't pick and choose, if you say for example there's a guy with good looks but has the worst game ever and calls every woman fat, they you know only looks wouln't do it; if there is a guy with great game but looks like a female himself, then you know only personality/talking doesn't work everytime. The only reason people believe in your original post is because they are afraid, they either don't get women a lot and blame it on looks, or need a reason to tell their friends why their not even looking for a GF. |
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| Author: | AnObserver [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:41 am ] |
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I've always wondered about stuff like this but couldn't come up with an answer. |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If a girl doesn't look at you... |
Quote: Discuss the following argument:
1) A girl will only sleep with a guy if she finds him physically attractive. Physically passable is more accurate, gotta pass that line of fuckable, but don't need to be brad pitt 2) Physical attraction is instant, so if a girl is ever going to find a guy sufficiently physically attractive to sleep with him, as soon as she encounters him she will find him physically attractive immediately. 3) If a girl finds a guy physically attractive immediately, she will look at him, i.e. sneak looks at him, stare at him, ogle him, smile at him, blush when she catches his eye, etc. not really, alot of girls do their best to hide their interest or will not look at guys they think are hot incase he catches them, heaven forbid she got caught checking a hot guy out 4) Therefore: if a girl doesn't look at a guy, she doesn't find him physically attractive enough to ogle him and hence will never find him physically attractive enough to sleep with him, so she will never sleep with him. not true, a girls tastes change with her cycle, women shift back and forth all the time from a preference to masculine men, to feminen men, depending on ovulation, not only that, but looks are much more widely subjective to women then to men, for most guys can look at a hottie like heidi klum, and say, yep she is a smoke show, super hot, while, alot of girls can look at george clooney, some will say he is good looking, others will say he is ugly, some like him for the money, some for the fame, either way, the whole ''looks'' aspect will have a much wider varieing opinion when you ask alot of women 5) Therefore: if a girl doesn't look at a guy, he has no chance with her and he would be better off not wasting his time trying to chat her up when she is clearly not interested, and never will be. once again not true, and approach invite is an indication that she finds you physically attractive, but beyond that you should open a set that interests you reguardless, and just look for compliance, rather then a pre-opening ioi to be ''sure'', it doesn't hurt and within 2 minutes of talking chances are you will be able to tell how interested they are just by observing their body language and their level of compliance 6) However, if she looks at him a few times she is probably interested and he should obviously go in for the kill! true but you don't need an approach invite to enter a set, they just allow you to know before hand that the girl is into you |
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| Author: | AnObserver [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:34 pm ] |
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"not really, alot of girls do their best to hide their interest or will not look at guys they think are hot incase he catches them, heaven forbid she got caught checking a hot guy out ". "not true, a girls tastes change with her cycle, women shift back and forth all the time from a preference to masculine men, to feminen men, depending on ovulation, not only that, but looks are much more widely subjective to women then to men," Bingo. But im really in a mix of thoughts when you say depending on ovulation lol. |
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| Author: | Andersonn [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:13 pm ] |
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That's a good point AnObserver, it's so much easier to stare/look at someone you're not attracted to. |
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| Author: | silverito [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:52 am ] |
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Quote: That's a good point AnObserver, it's so much easier to stare/look at someone you're not attracted to.
So what this changes the game?  Before that we all were sure that if a woman looks at you you are IN. Now, according to your post, it may likely be that she is NOT attracted and thats shy she is looking. That brings in lots of confusion in the whole game 
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| Author: | Killians [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:50 am ] |
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Actually, I look away from men I am attracted to. |
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| Author: | Hank Panky [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:28 am ] |
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#2 is wrong. I know from experience. I am not a conventionally attractive man. I work with what I have though, so I'm not hidious. I'm not overweight and I have a bit of style. It's my swagger that makes me attractive. I'm confident and charming. Refer to the Rake chapter in the Art of Seduction by Robert Greene. Very few women I've been with told me that they were attracted to me sexually on first sight, unless it was in a situation where I had a lot of social proof (which is also more about swagger than "looks"). But most of them end up telling me how sexy I am, usually AFTER we've slept together. I never hear that I'm handsome, but I hear that I'm sexy a lot. In fact, a gal once told me "you are the sexiest ugly dude I've ever met."
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| Author: | Fvckitimout [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:55 am ] |
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Quote: ...In fact, a gal once told me "you are the sexiest ugly dude I've ever met."
I literally LOLed xDAnyways to stay on point. I believe Our science of attraction is still a theory so far, analyzing the shiatzu over every single detail will just mess you up. You just have to be humble and surrender yourself to what works and whats doesnt and i assure you ovethinking social details such as why she did or did not look at you is one way to screw shit up. |
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| Author: | cunning_stunt [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:39 am ] |
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One very important point to remember,, in my humble opinion anyway, is that it is much better to get a girlfriend based on personality than looks. I believe personality based relationships last much longer. The ones that are looks based die quickly... its not enough for a girl to be with a guy who is goodlooking but doesnt float her boat personality wise, but they can do the other way around. |
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| Author: | danthedan [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:35 pm ] |
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Quote: One very important point to remember,, in my humble opinion anyway, is that it is much better to get a girlfriend based on personality than looks. I believe personality based relationships last much longer.
I couldn't care less what part of me a girl finds attractive, as long as she is physically attractive and willing to do sexual stuff with me.
The ones that are looks based die quickly... its not enough for a girl to be with a guy who is goodlooking but doesnt float her boat personality wise, but they can do the other way around. |
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| Author: | Korekreate1 [ Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If a girl doesn't look at you... |
Dude, girls aren't guys... They don't get aroused by the same exact thing we do. It's not all about aesthetics or physical to them. It is still important but comes secondary to behavior. You could look like Brad Pitt and she could be attracted initially, but if you're a total wimp she's going to be turned off to you real soon if not immediately. So stop wasting your time focusing on irrelevant and unresourceful things. The only argument you should be having is "I want to fuck this girl and let me make it happen". Everything else is a waste of time. |
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