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| Author: | pocket_rockets [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | set went bad what should i have done to save it |
I think the ability to stay cool when a set goes bad is a major leak in my game. I usually enter sets feeling confident and alpha, but as soon as it starts to go bad, I immediately lose my alpha mindset and start acting like an AFC. In class today we were lining up to pick up our assignments/midterms/crap. So I was beside this girl I haven't really talked to before with a cute smile, and she was talking to some of the other guys in line. I wanted to go direct on her by complimenting her on her smile. So I waited for a pause in their conversation and opened by saying something like "how do you think you did?". She gave me a standard answer. Then for some stupid reason, I guess just to avoid awkward silence, I negged her. I basically commented on the colour of her sweater like it was ugly or something. She just gave a neutral answer like "whatever I felt like wearing it". BOOM. That was the point where my alpha frame disappeared. She resumed her previous conversation. I then started acting needy since I was thinking "oh man, I just fucked myself I need to fix this asap" so every time there was a break in their conversation I tried to talk to her again. Every time I'd do that she'd look at me and her cute smile would vanish. What would you guys have done if you neg a girl and she doesn't take it well? |
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| Author: | bullshitter1 [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:13 am ] |
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first... ur in a closed enviroment so if u make an ass of urself its gonna stick with you. whereas in a bar or club if you fuck up who cares...no fucker knows you. second dont fucking neg girls in school. its got too much blow back and as u already experienced and will ruin any rep your trying to build. This negging shit is not for everyone and if used at all its to be used only when you know youve got high intrest off the girl...get it...u dont just fucking insult random girls right off the bat...duhhhh my advice is test the waters next time.. ask a random question..something to do with study or class or some bullshit...and see if she even fucking gives u the time of day. if she even responds to u next time, gage how she answers you..if its with a smile then capitalise by complimenting her smile.... this will leave a posotive and good image of you with her...something to build on QUIT THIS NEGGING BULLSHIT AND LEAVE IT TO THE PROS I just re read ur post and see basically u know what to do but your nerves got the better of you and you fucked up...now i see.. I suggest u meditate every morning beofe school... this is not bullshit im serious calm your head right down and your nerves will be kept in the box and you will become mr smooth |
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| Author: | pocket_rockets [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:04 pm ] |
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I agree. Negging and all that indirect bullshit is what I used to do all the time. Still a virgin. That's what I'm trying out direct game. I'm trying to erase all the bullshit I learned about indirect game and start over. You didn't address my most important question though. In general when a set goes bad, what are you supposed to do to save it WITHOUT bailing? Like I said, in this specific case, I only bailed since I knew there would be another chance. But if this was a class of 300 people instead of less than 30, I would've kept on going until I'd look like a social retard if I didn't bail, because there probably wouldn't be another chance to talk to her. |
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| Author: | bullshitter1 [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:26 pm ] |
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Quote: I agree. Negging and all that indirect bullshit is what I used to do all the time. Still a virgin. That's what I'm trying out direct game. I'm trying to erase all the bullshit I learned about indirect game and start over. You didn't address my most important question though. In general when a set goes bad, what are you supposed to do to save it WITHOUT bailing?
Look..everyone makes a mess now and again... when you say the wrong thing its not easy to recover from it...i mean you ever watched a comedien die on stage...where they just bomb and cant recover...Like I said, in this specific case, I only bailed since I knew there would be another chance. But if this was a class of 300 people instead of less than 30, I would've kept on going until I'd look like a social retard if I didn't bail, because there probably wouldn't be another chance to talk to her. when u open a set and u make an ass of yourself..your then an ass in the minds of that group... your not gonna change that perception with some slick move. as they say first impressions count..they do.. so the trick is...dont fuck up to begin with..as long as you come in slick and confident first time around you can afford to make a dick of yourself later on... but to go vice versa and be a dick and then be cool is just about fucking impossible. but dont swet it...just dont think u can change perceptions in 3 fucking minutes aftyer u fuck up intially... give it some breathing space and then as i said ask her some bullshit question and see if u can start fresh. once u bomb on a set and everyone starts talking over u...its a dead set and your credibility is shot...if its in a club and i have that happen i just move on...mind u its very rare that happens to me...in school i never hit on the girls my ego was to fragile hahaha... but like i said give it breathing space of atleast a few days and dont think u can recover a set in a couple of fuckng minutes after making a mess...it dont work that way., also do not fucking fixate on one girl... hit on other girls and this will raise her interest level in u anyhow...that would be the best recovery stratergy ur in school...there is no rush...if i had to do it all again id know better. school is a long term closed enviroment...which is bad and good.. the best stratergy is to think long term...in otherwords talk to all the cute girls...be smooth, everyday and when u get a lot of ioi's back then they will be so fucking easy to pull. think of being smooth like planting seeds... plant and tend to those seeds of smoothness every day and then wait until the crop is ready to drop...u wont even have to chance loosing face or making a fool of yourself, as you will see it in their faces how eager they are to say yes. SO..stop thinking in terms of opening sets n shit...thats club game...your in fucking school. in school ur in contact with cuties all day long...u pass em in the corridor..sit across from them in class and bullshit all day.. u dont need to interject urself into fucking sets who are bullshiting in the school yard or some shit...dont do that shit... instead like i said think long term stratergy...ur applying club game which pimps have to use as there are time constrictions and shit in a club and bar... its high risk unless you are a fucking pro player.. u dont need to do that shit in school just take every oppertunity to catch girls when ur near them and say shit to them...generall bullshit about school...and throw the odd compliment in...like i really like your sneekers or something innocent like that... this will plant a good vibe in their heads...get it be slow and smooth and subtle slowly slowly catchie monkey |
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| Author: | charblad [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:49 pm ] |
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yes^ The thing isn't how do you recover from a bad set, its how not to screw it up in the first place - I don't have any experience in recovering from a bad set because it doesn't happen to me, the best you can do is eject BEFORE it turns bad and come back later - sometimes i literally just say hi and leave because of some reason, and yes please leave neg-ging to the pro's its a art and can really ruin your rep if you do it wrong (most people do) |
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