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Author:  joven25 [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:29 am ]
Post subject:  Phone rules: Its absoulte
I got this from other site. I dont know if someone posted same stuff. But for all noobs just like me, This advise might help.

Ok here are some of my personal rules of phone interaction.
How you get the number or how you meet the girl are irrelevent, when you dial it.

Rule #1. Allways call after a few days. 2-4 days usually.
Rule #2. Only call her ONCE, and leave a breif message.
Rule #3. Never call her back untill SHE contants YOU first.
Rule #4. DONT COMPROMISE YOURSELF FOR THE GIRL!

Heres my reasoning.

Rule 1. Calling really soon is a clear IOI. Calling at all is an IOI really, but waiting on the call makes it appear Less an an IOI. It kind of cushes the blow and makes you look less needy.

Rule 2. She can see that you've called 1 time, or a 100 times. The thing she's going to notice is That you've called. The magnitude of the calls wont make her call you faster or anything. PLUS every time you call her repeatedly its dropping a clear IOI every time, and it magnifies every time you do it making you appear more needy than before.

Rule 3 is the hardest part to do sometimes. Hold your ground and make her call you back. Its almost the mentality of "you have to call back to get the prize" And make sure you leave a message saying for HER to contact YOU.

Rule 4 is a general rule. The more you compromise who you are the less your being 100% congruent with yourself. And try to stay as close to that as you can.

Feedback or extra rules are welcome.
Author:  The Doctor [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:42 am ]
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I'd say that these are a good basic set of guidelines for before you have some feel for calibration... Thats what you need to learn with some experience. But like canned openers these rules may be of use in the VERY beggining, however like canned openeers I recommend you ditch them in favor for on the fly calibration as soon as possible... also more practice calibrating= quicker learning/quicker improvement calibrating.
Author:  Numen [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:52 pm ]
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I completely agree doc. It's a basic set of guidelines to start with. Once you get enough experience you can start creating your own rules and those become inane. Just like all the traditional PUA techniques you learn about in the books, once you master them you must shed them completely and do everything on the fly.
Author:  Financialwar [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:37 am ]
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what is calibration?
Author:  Impact [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:26 am ]
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no such thing as rules.

They are guidelines.
Author:  The Doctor [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:43 am ]
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what is calibration?
cal·i·bra·tion [ kàlli bráysh'n ] (plural cal·i·bra·tions)


noun

Definition:

1. standardization of measuring instrument: the checking of a measuring instrument against an accurate standard to determine any deviation and correct for errors


Now how it applies to PU. You measure diffrent reactions, body language, personality, etc etc etc... all the factors and decide the proper response, "on the fly" as pokernumen said...

In other words the more you improve, the more you improv. :wink:
Author:  saqchek [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phone rules: Its absoulte
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Rule #1. Allways call after a few days. 2-4 days usually.
This is not true and I'll explain why. IN FACT, it's the same thing all the other MM teachers explain as well. When you meet a girl and attract her, you have a certain amount of momentum going in your favor. This favor is diminished by time, so the longer you wait really, the higher your chances of her flaking or losing her attraction over you. Nothing wrong with calling the next day and keep it short. The trick is to make her relive those enjoying moments she had with you.
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Rule #2. Only call her ONCE, and leave a brief message.
This part is true.
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Rule #3. Never call her back untill SHE contants YOU first.
Not true. Sometimes women just get busy. Hell, women flake on their own friends. Generally you give them one last call a few days later, and then if she doesn't call back then move on. You can do the 1 call shit, but chances are you could be missing out on some good sex/companionship by simply not giving a 2nd call.
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Rule #4. DONT COMPROMISE YOURSELF FOR THE GIRL!
This is true.
Author:  Boss Playa [ Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:00 pm ]
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Rule #3 definitely can be difficult. Met a woman on match.com using Inside Internet Dating.
Set the entire frame that she was chasing me and I was the prize. She text messaged me before I even called her (she had my # but said she was shy so I should call her) and said she hoped to hear from me. Went out 9 days ago. Wonderful time, she's touching me, laughing up a storm, kisses me at the end.

I call Monday, she's on the phone, I hang up. I should have left a message. That was 4 days later. I expected her to jump at my call. I did call the next day and left an energetic message, that she had passed my first test and earned a call back from me.

Nothing since. Do I just blow her off forever? Do I send some goofy text message a week from now or something?

I know it's her deal why she isn't calling, and it's my fault to expect her to jump at my call but after she had so much fun and acted like that I did expect an answer.

Meet #2 was going to be a unique dining experience....pickup at her place(I live with my parents) go to the grocery store, food, wine, and cook together. It would be mysterious. All I would say is unique dining experience, I'll pick you up. Build tension all evening, maybe kiss while doing the dishes after acusing her of splashing me with water. No jackass on match.com is going to match that. You can say I was planning too far ahead, but that was just what I had planned had we actually spoken... Had I had no plan I would have gotten blown out or came up with a stupid idea.

David M. thinks I might have shown too much interest. I did not mention meeting again at all. My last words were "We should talk." Very vague, purposely. "Ya! call me!" He said he waits for women to contact him after meeting. He's Mr. met 500 women online. He thinks I should go to a text only phone game after meeting.

In the meantime I am all about moving on and getting other women. Went out last night and had fun with some Pittsburgh guys. Just looking for some advise, because I am still fairly new at this stuff. Thanks for the advise fellas!
Author:  Numen [ Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:28 pm ]
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good luck on that one craig but be careful... she sounds like the needy/clingy type
Author:  Boss Playa [ Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:37 pm ]
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Thanks, but how much is she the needy/clingy type if she doesn't return my calls? I have no idea!?
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:11 pm ]
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Exactly pokernumen, how is she needy or clingy? She's BLOWING him off.

I would give her one more call. Give her the benefit of the doubt. If she still blows you off, forget her.
Author:  shurgs [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:58 am ]
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Calling the girl after meeting her....

its simple guys...whenever you tell her you are going to call.... you call her...


when I meet a new girl and I honestly want to see her again I let her know...

Ill say, "Ill call you tomorrow" and heres the thing guys.... actually call her tomorrow!!!!

Or If you want to be more mysterious and show that you are also busy say, "Ill call you this week" then follow through at your leisure and call her!!!

So my advice next time you meet a girl worth calling or seeing again use one of the above two scenarios at the end of the night or at the end of your hangout... beleive me they will be happy to hear from you and if they aren't you will sense it through the flow of the phone call... AT which you should just forget about her.
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