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Author:  Iwan [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  suprise, suprise! and now I'm stuck:/ need your advice.
Hi guys,
Probably most common story here, I lost balls, fell in love with one girl, she become my itis. It took like 1,5 year:)
long story short, she 'dumped' me by text message lol. She started relationship with some guy.
So, six months or more has passed since our last contact. My game improved tremendously, I slept with 12 women since that time. Changed my looks as well. Some one night stands, some short relationships. I thought it was over;)
So this morning I open my facebook account and I found message from her, saying how am i doing, and that she is really sorry she behaved that way etc. By the way it was written one can tell it took some time for her to write this. She still has 'in relationship' status on fb account.
So here's question to You gentlemen:
Why did she wrote this?
Is it only her guilty conscious, or there is something more to it?
and most important - what should i do in response.
After 12 women I still got feelings for her. But this time i got balls too lol
Author:  Ch1mera [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:37 pm ]
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It seems to me that you're not the only one who knows how much you've changed. To me it looks like she's noticed the social gains you've made (maybe through wallposts and pictures on Facebook) and now regrets dumping you because she sees her current boyfriend as lower value for whatever reason.
People don't send apologies six months late from a guilty conscience. Call me cynical, but it looks crystal clear in my point of view![/i]
Author:  Omalie Cat [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:48 pm ]
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she sees her current boyfriend as lower value for whatever reason.
^ I'll second that ^

If I were in your situation, the first thing i'd do is accept the appology. If she's being sincere, the last thing you want to do is shut her down and make her feel bad for reaching out to you. However, at the same time, I would not be over-anxious. Maybe take a little time to reply, and make it simple, but leave an opening for her to reply and continue the conversation.

You've got her coming to you. This is a huge advantage, don't throw it away. Keep putting out bait and get a solid investment out of her. Once she's proven being sincere, feel free to test those new balls you've gotten a hold of and keep doing what you're doing (something grabbed her interest). Just remember to lead the interaction where you want.
Author:  Iwan [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:53 am ]
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Thanks for your answers guys. I need some guidance here becouse my trust in this case is at zero level:) I fucked up so many things before with this girl, she did some nasty shit, so now i don't trust her and i don't trust my intuition. As for the change in me, I got best confirmation i could get: I met with the girl I used to be working with, and out of the blue she said that I've changed like hell, and that i'm very masculine now. My self esteem got sky high hehehe

Ok so my main concern over this is that she may be just curious or feel better about the shit she did. Anyway, i'm going to do what You suggest. But let me tell You one thing:
I never expected to hear from her. It is like hearing Hitler apologising to jews lol.
Any ideas what should i write to her? I want to keep it short and simple but on the other hand leaving open door for further communication.
Author:  Ch1mera [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:39 pm ]
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Thanks for your answers guys. I need some guidance here becouse my trust in this case is at zero level:) I fucked up so many things before with this girl, she did some nasty shit, so now i don't trust her and i don't trust my intuition. As for the change in me, I got best confirmation i could get: I met with the girl I used to be working with, and out of the blue she said that I've changed like hell, and that i'm very masculine now. My self esteem got sky high hehehe

Ok so my main concern over this is that she may be just curious or feel better about the shit she did. Anyway, i'm going to do what You suggest. But let me tell You one thing:
I never expected to hear from her. It is like hearing Hitler apologising to jews lol.
Any ideas what should i write to her? I want to keep it short and simple but on the other hand leaving open door for further communication.
She's your friend, you know her better than we do. However I will suggest that you keep the conversation light, relaxed and funny. Basically, just talk to her like you just met her. Leave the past in the past. That way, you aren't building any expectations. It sounds like you really like this girl - be careful to not idolize her, this could spell disaster later on for your feelings! Good luck pal :)

Sincerely,
C
Author:  Iwan [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:42 pm ]
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so unfotunately i think i was right. I wrote short message that evereything's fine, and how she is doing etc. she replied with the same short message that she's ok and she is glad i'm fine. What do You suggest next?
Author:  superunknown88 [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:43 pm ]
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Leave it at that. Show higher status by letting her come to you.
Author:  Omalie Cat [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:51 pm ]
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Well she's continuing the conversation even though it's one of those plain kind of messages. This is a good sign. You have a few options.

1. Do what superunknown suggested.
2. Set up a meet, something simple and fun. Where you can talk and relax. Basically just play catch up and allow you to show value and be interesting. I'm a big fan of doing silly kid stuff like bowling and then going to a coffee shop where i do heavy qualification and can really get a conversation going.

Both are good options, if you are still uncertain about her level of interest go with plan 1. Or, if you are feeling aggressive, plan 2 is my personal recommendation.

Also, just to make something clear. If she did some really "nasty shit" to you and you don't trust her, make sure you really do like her and you aren't just trying to get attention from her so you can snub her back like she did to you.
Author:  Iwan [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:05 pm ]
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well I'm not going to respond. if I try to set up a meeting it will look week. And YES, I have no idea why she started this conversation. What's your opinion on that? If I get a grip on why she wrote that I'll be able to get back on tracks. Right now, I'm in total darkness;)
Author:  Omalie Cat [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:45 pm ]
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well one possibility (as stated earlier) is that she sees you as a higher value man than her current boyfriend

possibility two, she sincerely feels bad for what she did. to a more extreme, she may even want to get back together

the final reason I can think of is she just wants your attention to boost her self esteem and feminine power
Author:  Iwan [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:04 pm ]
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I was thinking also about that feminine power, she fits the profile... But on the other hand doing so after half a year is fucking ridiculous.
Author:  Iwan [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:10 am ]
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short update:
she wrote again "can I talk with you?:):)" i wrote 2 days later "yeah?" (not litteral translation, I'm polish so it may sound different - but I replied kinda cold). She didn't respond. She put some song "Somebody I used to know" on her FB. Few days after I met her accidentally - she stopped smiled said hello, I looked at her said hello and went away:) She lower her head and went away almost running. I was cold as ice, with no smile etc. Too tired, returning after training. After like 2 days I wrote her short message - "I didn't recognize you. RF." The same day she starts conversation on FB but again I was cold and cut it soon.

Ok so there's silnce from that point. I want to contact her, but she's still with some guy and I'm afraid that her behavior is just seeking validation.
Guys any advice? Never been in that kind of situation:/:/
Author:  Tromz [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:16 am ]
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Alright, before I can give you any advice I need to know one thing: Do you actually want to keep in touch with her, get her back, fuck her, any of that kind of stuff? What are your intentions for her? Once I get a better feel of that I can give you some ideas I think.
Author:  Iwan [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:42 am ]
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I want her. I want a relationship with her. Even after what she did (plenty of my fault there too)
Oh, BTW we never had sex, lots of kino, kissing, almost sex but not sex. I always ruined something along the way - now i see that:))) That thing, and the fact that she's with somebody knocks me over and over - I'm confused what to do;/
Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:11 am ]
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life's too short to pursue a woman who broke your heart.

that's an epic fail.

pursue other women who haven't trashed your soul + let her regret dumping you

that's an epic double-win.

simple. life is too short for exes.
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