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Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Social Value Question

Hey. So I'm in a bit of a tricky situation this year. I've just started sarging (just posted my first field report today), and I think I can open sets pretty well. Here's the problem - I'm a 5th year senior, and so basically all of my friends have graduated. Thus, I'm left in a position where I don't know a lot of people and, if I do go to a party, I'm left in the embarrassing position of having to explain who I know, etc. Basically, at college people look at you funny if they haven't seen you around and you don't seem to really know anyone (they assume there's a reason - you suck). This is obviously DLV but it seems inescapable to me. What do I do to go about turning this around?

Author:  Ka [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:05 pm ]
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Your Alpha, so make new friends. Participate in after school activites. Goto cafetiria's and just open sets to make friends.

When someone ask's me who i know or who invited me, i reply with something like.

YOU: "Im just crashing the party, i dont know a soul here." (Silly grin)

or

YOU: "This is a party? I didnt even realize...well we should make the most of it, a toast to you good sir!" (most people at parties in college are easily distracted by alcohol)

Author:  Valence [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:31 pm ]
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Why are you explaining yourself to anyone?

Walk in there and start meeting people. If someone asks, tell them you know everyone but some of them do not know it yet. Proceed to meet the person that asked you.

If they do not want you there, walk off. They need you more than you need them.

Run the show regardless of whos party it is.

Author:  -Fluff- [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:29 pm ]
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Or you could just throw your own party and have people explain themselves to you. Throwing a great party will for sure be a DHV.

When talking to a HB
"Im having a party"
Sounds better than
"Im going to a party"

Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:40 pm ]
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Ok so kinda a follow up along the same lines. I'm thinking of going sarging at a club tonite but I have no takers for wings to come with me. Thus, I'm rolling into a club by myself - instant DLV right? Any good routines, something about friends being untrustworthy by ditching you...I dunno?

Author:  Exxxcel [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:57 pm ]
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Once again - you don't need to explain yourself. Personally, I'm very rarely ever asked who I'm with unless I ask first.

Should it come up, however, just say that your friends are in there somewhere, that you split up when you had to piss. You could even ask her to help you find them, and walk arm in arm or hand in hand around the club looking for them - of course you won't find them, but not only is this a good tester(is she willing to go off alone with you? Will she take your arm/hand?), it also is a good point of kino escalation AND builds social proof to the others :wink:

So, to sum it up, if they ask who you're with:
-When you're in A1(just met them, ran an opener): This is kinda an IOD at this stage(kinda like saying 'Shouldn't you be with YOU'RE friends instead of us?'), meaning you kinda sketched them out. Nothing you can really do here besides say 'my friends are here somewhere'
-When you're in A2(starting some DHV routines, negging the target): Say 'there here somewhere, won't you guys help me look for them?' Offer your hands/arms. Won't work on a set more then 3, works best with a 2 set. EXCELLENT DHV and social proofing if you wanna open more sets later.
-When you're in A3/C1(Qualification stage): PERFECT time to isolate the target. Grab her hand and walk away. Does she give you her hand willingly? If you lighten your grip, does she let her hand fall away, or do your fingers stay loosely interlocked? Can you interweave your fingers with hers? If yes to any of them, you are doing good, if yes to all, VERY good. Once you have her away, start comfort building, go for a kiss - if you get the kiss, make sure YOU end it and say 'hey, thats it for now, lets get back to our(NOTE: HER) friends'.

Good luck.

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