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Author:  crs13 [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:22 am ]
Post subject:  AFC on the rise
I'm 18 and I'm in a fraternity in college. I was a flat on AFC less than a year ago but I've been making strides. I hook up with girls all the time at parties but I never close the deal. It's getting a little ridiculous given that I hooked up with 20+ girls but haven't closed with a single one.

Everyone I know doesn't think I'm a virgin but the sad truth is...I am.

I've been trying to change that and I've been making some process this semester but still nothing definite yet. Every time I ever tried to hang out with a girl outside of a party that I hooked up with it usually doesn't end up so well. Should I just stick to inviting those girls out the next weekend or should I try to actually hang out with these girls?
Author:  Fragnance [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:47 pm ]
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Try to find out why isn't the ending going well. Obviously, something before the end didn't go well, hence fix that.

Break your game into steps and figure it out. Fix it, practice enough. That should be good i guess.
Author:  smooth99 [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:52 am ]
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im not exactly sure what youre routine is or what you generally do but i get the feelign that you end up hooking up with a girl on the dance floor at bat etc k close for 10 mins and then go back to your mates ?

if this is what you do then i think the easiest way for you to escalate things would be to isolate her and then chage venues. just say something like , "we cant talk in here, lets go to ( whatever bar ) ".

once youve got there focus on building up sexual tension and try to make an excuse to come back to yours. mention a film or show her some photos whatever , it doesnt matter cause once you get back to yours thats not what your gona be doing lol. btw this doesnt mean tricking her into coming back to your place but give her a valid reason to so that she doesnt feel like a slut.

o and be prepared for lmr :( 2 steps forward one step back should solve it .

hope this has helped.
Author:  crs13 [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:37 am ]
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im not exactly sure what youre routine is or what you generally do but i get the feelign that you end up hooking up with a girl on the dance floor at bat etc k close for 10 mins and then go back to your mates ?

if this is what you do then i think the easiest way for you to escalate things would be to isolate her and then chage venues. just say something like , "we cant talk in here, lets go to ( whatever bar ) ".

once youve got there focus on building up sexual tension and try to make an excuse to come back to yours. mention a film or show her some photos whatever , it doesnt matter cause once you get back to yours thats not what your gona be doing lol. btw this doesnt mean tricking her into coming back to your place but give her a valid reason to so that she doesnt feel like a slut.

o and be prepared for lmr :( 2 steps forward one step back should solve it .

hope this has helped.
Yeah, I've taken a deep look at my game and I've been doing way better lately. I've been talking a lot less and letting them do most of the work aka me evaluating themselves instead of the other way around.

It's a big party weekend so we'll see what happens. Thanks for the advice.
Author:  RemyTheRed [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:58 am ]
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Not to be dogmatic because in college my game was dysfuntional and worked at times and other not so much, Judging by what your saying speaking less and escalating gradually will do the trick. It seem like you and the girl are having a relatively good time, hook up, but since it happens suddenly or so it seems.

She prolly is thinking "this is kinda sudden and this is good, but I promise myslef I'm not gonna sleep with him." This happen especially if she just falls in your lap or if your hooking up with her too fast like a freebie of sorts she'll do it but cop out at the last second. In conversation You need to buffer her before hand, letting her know with escalating that you two fucking/making love is your plan. she won't reject you advances cuz your not actually fucking her yet, your just letting her know where it's going.

Pretty impressive hooking up with 20 + girls. Also don't be afraid to apply a little pressure (plow.) Sometimes its just token resistance (resistance that just naturally kick in from something moving fast) an inertia if you will. We all have that kind of resistance it comes from feeling lack of control.

Overall i found college was an easy place to get laid, you use direct and indirect approaches cuz everyone else is. there's targets everywhere. Parties. I personally excelled a working a room with bs magic routines and funny shit. I actually discover freeze out work for LMR. MM always said but i never believed it till i used it. so if nothing else go textbook.

Also might be your hooking up with them incompetently, not likely, most people can kiss and feel a girl up without doing it wrong but worth taking a look in the mirror.

and IF nothing else use sinn relationship latter, I'm not really a routine guy, I play natural with routines as a fail safe, I've got a library of routines in my head, conscious competence and all.

well good luck ironing this kink,
Author:  RemyTheRed [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:01 am ]
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Not to be dogmatic because in college my game was dysfuntional and worked at times and other not so much, Judging by what your saying speaking less and escalating gradually will do the trick. It seem like you and the girl are having a relatively good time, hook up, but since it happens suddenly or so it seems.

She prolly is thinking "this is kinda sudden and this is good, but I promise myslef I'm not gonna sleep with him." This happen especially if she just falls in your lap or if your hooking up with her too fast like a freebie of sorts she'll do it but cop out at the last second. In conversation You need to buffer her before hand, letting her know with escalating that you two fucking/making love is your plan. she won't reject you advances cuz your not actually fucking her yet, your just letting her know where it's going.

Pretty impressive hooking up with 20 + girls. Also don't be afraid to apply a little pressure (plow.) Sometimes its just token resistance (resistance that just naturally kick in from something moving fast) an inertia if you will. We all have that kind of resistance it comes from feeling lack of control.

Overall i found college was an easy place to get laid, you use direct and indirect approaches cuz everyone else is. there's targets everywhere. Parties. I personally excelled a working a room with bs magic routines and funny shit. I actually discover freeze out work for LMR. MM always said but i never believed it till i used it. so if nothing else go textbook.

Also might be your hooking up with them incompetently, not likely, most people can kiss and feel a girl up without doing it wrong but worth taking a look in the mirror.

and IF nothing else use sinn relationship latter, I'm not really a routine guy, I play natural with routines as a fail safe, I've got a library of routines in my head, conscious competence and all.

well good luck ironing this kink,
Author:  RemyTheRed [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:01 am ]
Post subject: 
Not to be dogmatic because in college my game was dysfuntional and worked at times and other not so much, Judging by what your saying speaking less and escalating gradually will do the trick. It seem like you and the girl are having a relatively good time, hook up, but since it happens suddenly or so it seems.

She prolly is thinking "this is kinda sudden and this is good, but I promise myslef I'm not gonna sleep with him." This happen especially if she just falls in your lap or if your hooking up with her too fast like a freebie of sorts she'll do it but cop out at the last second. In conversation You need to buffer her before hand, letting her know with escalating that you two fucking/making love is your plan. she won't reject you advances cuz your not actually fucking her yet, your just letting her know where it's going.

Pretty impressive hooking up with 20 + girls. Also don't be afraid to apply a little pressure (plow.) Sometimes its just token resistance (resistance that just naturally kick in from something moving fast) an inertia if you will. We all have that kind of resistance it comes from feeling lack of control.

Overall i found college was an easy place to get laid, you use direct and indirect approaches cuz everyone else is. there's targets everywhere. Parties. I personally excelled a working a room with bs magic routines and funny shit. I actually discover freeze out work for LMR. MM always said but i never believed it till i used it. so if nothing else go textbook.

Also might be your hooking up with them incompetently, not likely, most people can kiss and feel a girl up without doing it wrong but worth taking a look in the mirror.

and IF nothing else use sinn relationship latter, I'm not really a routine guy, I play natural with routines as a fail safe, I've got a library of routines in my head, conscious competence and all.

well good luck ironing this kink,
Author:  PrinceMCharming [ Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:33 am ]
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Build some sexual tension, use more negs or DHV's, don't get into the kissing stage to fast or that where its going to end.
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