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Author:  $uave [ Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:49 pm ]
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I've got a little problem...I'm in love. I'm 18 she is 23. The guy she is seeing now is 24. He's got a car(I don't have one) Seems like I'm getting stuck in a friendship zone, but I've watched the video about getting out of it and will try it out ASAP. I think a girl might be kind of attracted to me. I've read some boyfriend destroyers, thinking about combining them with attraction builders. I have a little problem with kino escalation...or with its absence. BUT THE MAIN PROBLEM IS:

WHEN I am with her I forget everything about pickup. All techniques, everything is gone. I forget everything(even staff unrelated to pickup). At the beginning when I meet her my inner game helps me out a little so I look confident and she even said that she finds me charming:)(thanks to question game)P.S. I haven't been seeing her many times, so I don't think I'm deep in friendship zone. Please help me with two problems. How to keep my thoughts in my head(when I meet her) and second. What to do with the guy she is seeing(nothing serious)

(she is still a virgin so I'm trying not to push too far with negs ant teasing+she said that one of the qualities she hates most of all are rudeness and judgmental people. WHAT SHOULD I DO??? There is also problem with boyfriend destroyers because they are based on the weaknesses of her "boyfriend". But I can't find any to use. PLEASE GIVE ME AN ADVISE!!!

Author:  $uave [ Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:37 pm ]
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P.S. She has hell of a great personality( that's why i fell for her) + she is shy...so I'm thinking about light kino,keeping up frame(P.S. I don't think I should go direct here.)Anyways, who cares what I think...if I was right I wouldn't be stuck in this BS. situation. But I reallyreallyreally want this girl. So please HELP!!!

Author:  zack89 [ Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:41 pm ]
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OK, first of all, I'm no pick-up-master so it's not like I'm an expert in this kind of situations. However, I experienced things like this my own, so I'll just tell you my opinion.

1. Don't get stuck on this one girl. That's one-itis. I met a lot of girls where I thought this is a girl I can spend the rest of my life with, but that doesn't mean she feels the same (yet).

2. Don't be needy. I know you are in love, but you have to talk to her with a mindset this is just a random girl and nothing is going to happen. If you start building expectations, it will probably fail, so don't do that.

3. Be cocky & funny. Build a frame where you act like you already have everything going on for yourself. Next to that make it sound like she is picking you up.

Surf the net for examples of cocky and funny. The trick is to be arrogant, but as long as it's funny it's ok. Other things I use is misinterpretations (for example I act like all the things she is saying are meant to be sexual.), roleplaying (like you act like she's your sister or your stalking ex-wife, but I'm not sure if you can still use this one) and exaggeration.

4. Look at the situation from her perspective. She already has a boyfriend so why should she go out with you. OK, her boyfriend has a car and is older then her, that's an advantage. The car itself is not so special, but it enables him to drive to cool places and do more fun things with her. The trick is to show her what kind of things you have going on. Hobbies, fun stuff you do, dangerous stuff, ...

I do have to admit that this is a sticking point for me myself. Many cool things cost money, for example travelling, doing restaurants, hobbies like snowboarding, sailing, ... So money can be an issue despite what many pick-up-artists say. Next to that you can do cheap things like long walks on the beach, cooking for her but then again since you're 18 I'm not sure you have a place of your own or a car to drive to beautiful places like the beach. I'm 20 btw and have the same problem. So if you can figure fun and original activities yourself, please let me know.

5. About the boyfriend again. Boyfrienddestroyers are all about finding the weaknesses of the boyfriend. Jealousy, being to controlling that kind of things. Now, I do have to say if he's the kind of person that acts like every day with his girlfriend can be the last one with other words being totally not needy! That this won't be a relationship easy to sink.

Conclusion: What I would do in your situation, is check how strong the relation with her boyfriend is, while showing her what kind of cool stuff you got going on. So she becomes more attractive to you than him.

If the relationship is too strong, just let it go for a while. Stay in touch with her, invite her to fun things, you can even invite the two of them, just to let her know from time to time what fun stuff you do. For example, hey I'm throwing a party maybe you want to come. Like acquaintances do. If she doesn't come don't worry. She'll hear how cool it was from others anyway.

Now, if the relationship suddenly gets weaker or ends, then you have another wake-up call. Then the time has arrived to start being closer again. Oh and try to follow up the relationship more or less through a friend of her or somebody else not by being her primary best friend. Because if you're her "friend" and the relationship ends she will certainly not become your girlfriend. As you know friendshipzone means being screwed!

Anyway I hope my long advice is of any help and let me know what your up to do with it.

ZACK :)

Author:  Fragnance [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:23 pm ]
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Well Rustam i don't think i need to tell what you should do, you already know it to good extent. One thing i think you might be missing is - its not what you say, its how you say.

Now for your forgetting, i'd suggest you visualize. All great athletes do it. They imagine the result, how they'll do it before hand. Imagine it so many times that it feels so real when they do it in reality.

I suggest that you do the same. visualize everything you want to do with this girl, visualize it so many times and trust yourself that you will act in that way.


Though i'd like to say that you are going in the direction of oneitis. I hope you know what that is.

Stay safe :P ;)

Author:  $uave [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:30 pm ]
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BTW...she is asian and her "boyfriend" too. I'm white. She is gone to atlanta with her friends for about a week...so should I contact her during this time and what should I do after she comes back???P.S. I think she went there without her boyfriend(she is a law student and only law students get a Fall break)

Author:  Fragnance [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:43 pm ]
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so should I contact her during this time
You should, but don't be interfering and needy.
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and what should I do after she comes back?
what should I do after she comes back? what should I do after she comes back?

I am sure there must be zillion things you would want to know about her vacations!

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