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Author:  .EnVy. [ Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:40 am ]
Post subject:  Negs = Insults
Whenever I playfully throw
a neg at a girl, they ALWAYS
seem to take it in a mean
way, and get upset at me.

For example:

I was out the other day, and
I got to know this one girl. She
was out with her friend, and I
used the "Aren't you going to
introduce me to your friend?"
line.

When she introduces me, I tell
the new girl "How do you roll with
this girl? You can dress her up but
you can't take her anywere."

I said it with a smile and leaning back.
This HB drops her jaw, calls me an asshole
and walks away.

I tried to tell her that I was
just kidding, and I started to
giggle with her, but she just
insisted on leaving.

Naturally, I let her go, I'm not going
to follow the girl.


WHAT DID I DO WRONG?!?!?!
Author:  Mech [ Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:28 am ]
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Some girls are like that. I seriously got punched in the jaw once for negging too hard too early. Learning is fun.
Author:  xfman [ Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:56 am ]
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Hope this helps you, I just send this yesterday in my newsletter:
Quote:
In today's newsletter we are going to talk about NEG's and the dilemma between being a romantic guy or a C&F guy

1. NEG's are used to remove bitch shields and are used to LHV (low her value) and to DHV. You don't need to use NEG's in every interaction, once you finished the attraction phase you don't need to use NEGs (You can sue them in Comfort but these NEG's are different than the the Attraction NEG's.) its time to create a connection there is no need to create more attraction.

2. NEG's are made by two parts an up and a down.

XFMAN : I like your boots (Up), my grandma have a pair like those.(Down)

XFMAN: Your nails are fake, (down) , but they still look nice (up)

If you don't include an up , then the NEG become a line of an arrogant person
If you don't include a down then it is a complement.

So you have to use the up & down correct to have good results , and sometimes by using only a down you make the girl act more bitchy.

3. When you have finish Attraction there is no need to play hard to get (This is a trick one , sometimes you have to , but it all depends on how the girl behave.) There is no need to be hard to get because you too have accepted you both are attracted to each other , she shows attraction in A2 and you show attraction in A3. In Comfort its time to get to know each other, escalate kino and build trust, You can use some NEG's but with the purpose of create rapport and a connection not to lower her.

4. Another common question: Can I be romantic ?

OF course you can, and you will not look like an AFC, this is one of the biggest misconceptions in the community , many PUAs think they can't show love or be romantic , because they are going to loose the attraction of the girl, because they are acting as an AFC.

YOU CAN BE ROMANTIC, but you have to know when and of course don't be TOO CHEESE. You can be romantic and a sweet guy BUT always having the control. IF you still act like the Alpha Male and you don't look needy then you can be romantic once in a while.

**NOTE : From my experience , you can be a romantic guy but when you all ready have a relationship , You can be romantic in Seduction , during arousal.

But I really recommend all of you to start with little things to see how girl respond to some romantic details and then evaluate the situation and take action.
Success, XF.

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XFMAN at www.freewebs.com/xfman
Author:  doc1983 [ Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:26 am ]
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Two words, "throw and Go" maybe thats three but anyways Don't let her speak afterwords or she will call you an asshole.
Author:  .EnVy. [ Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:14 pm ]
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Thanks for the reply, fellas.
That helps a lot.

But the problem is that if I
"throw and go," it'll seem like
an insult--consider this:

If I walk up to you and say,
"Hey, you talk to much hahaha.
Anyways, back to me...etc"

How would that make you feel?

ON THE OTHER HAND...how would
that MAKE ME LOOK?
Author:  Show [ Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:14 am ]
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You probably said it in a way that didn't sound like a joke.
And you were probably seeking her approval while saying it. (hence why you appologized)
She picked up on the fact that you were trying to impress her, and left because of it.
Remember: it's never what you say...it's how you say it.
Author:  doc1983 [ Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:41 am ]
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I agree with Show, u got to "bust her balls" in a playful way or else yeah your gonna be an asshole....... i once heard u can say anything as long asyour good at it
Author:  .EnVy. [ Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:02 pm ]
Post subject: 
I agree with you guys, but I said
it in the most playful way that I
could think of.

Oh well, I guess I just need some
more practice in the neging section.
Author:  GreenGiant [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:22 pm ]
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yeah it's the delivery. SMILE. When you walk into a room, you need a game face on, and it mustn't be far from your face all night. If you don't smile you will appear cold and closed. A smile is the strongest body language you can use.

Also, don't neg something that it's obvious a girl might be conscious about: for example if she has bad skin don't call her pizza face or something. You get my drift...
Author:  NbBurna [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:02 pm ]
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hey guys i had a question about this too..

how do you know when the "attraction phase" is over and in what ways can you build trust and comfort?
Author:  Drak_Ool [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:18 pm ]
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girls with low self-esteem don't take negs very well...
if you re gonna use an "asshole" neg (like the one in your example) you have to throw it at a SHB
Author:  Mike413 [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:19 am ]
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I was at a singles event a few months ago. There was a woman there named Jeri so I teased her about her name saying she had a boys name etc etc. She didn't seem to know how to take it like if she could really tell I was joking or not(which ofcourse I was). We talked a little bit more but then as we were walking she stopped to talk to her friends but I just kept walking and she didn't follow me. Later on in the evening when I tried talking to her again she gave me the "talk to the hand because the face ain't listening" thing. I think that was kind of rude so later on when I finally left I just said to her "bye meanie" and she said "bye" and that was it. I actually didn't do too bad that night with the cocky funny thing but I'll save that for another time.
Author:  soohigh [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:02 pm ]
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yeah sometimes you neg and they take it the wrong way, and theyll shit test you back, it makes me so mad sometimes, i wish i could unleash the afc in me sometimes and just be like "hey, your a stupid ho, you cant take a joke" but you just gotta bite your tongue and deal with the shit test properly, look unaffected that she took it the wrong way, think of it as her problem (dont do this and seem like an ass at the same time) or could use the "what, cant take a joke, you were taking that pretty seriously now i wonder why hmm?" and yeah, there better for SHBS, ive found i can make them work for even ugz, but its really annoying when you find someone who is clearly hot, who just has low self esteem, id stay away from those ones there trouble
Author:  FreeLife [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:24 pm ]
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Yeah it most likely the delivery thats the problem.

I don't know if this was already mentioned but a great thing to do is to cut all eye contact when throwing a neg. Eye contact is at this point both reaction- and approval seeking. Also throw a neg and quickly start talking about something else. I think it was great that you let her go because girls who can't take negs are almost always:

a.) Having a really bad day
b.) Psychos with low selfesteem.

Either way it isn't preferable to stick around them.
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