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Author:  curazyboy [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:03 am ]
Post subject:  Attraction!! UGH!
I'm Semi new to the whole seduction community. I have always had some natural game and have no problem meeting new women all the time. Even opening as of recent i felt i have got down. My only sticking point is that if a girl who isn't interested at first becoming interested. I tried all kinds of things. The number game, cube game, negging. I feel like my timing is off possibly or maybe not stacking correctly? DHV? but here is an example of what i'm talking about....

My buddy and i were standing by a 4 set HB 5(one) HB 5 (two) HB 6 and HB 7. chatting for a moment (trying to not be such a threat) when i lean to my left

Me: let me ask you something....my friend and i have been arguing and...who do you think lies more guys or girls?
HB5 (one): Guys!
HB 7: no way girls do!
after a brief conversation HB 6 isolates herself with my friend behind me while i keep the group company.
Now usually i would lock in somewhere but couldn't because we were standing up in the middle of the room. I Play the number game with HB 5 (two) and she guessed 3 then 8.
Me: I'm a man...i only get it right 50% of the time.
This gets a little laugh. But no hook.
HB 5(two) says to HB 5 (one): He guessed my number right. He should try it on you
Me: ok i'll play another game...i bet i could figure your personality out by connecting with you and asking a series of questions.
I continue with the cube game
HB 5 (one): that seems pretty vague and could be anyone
Then after a few minutes of fluffing I neg HB 7 for being short. After a while it became a dead set and I ejected

My buddy number closed later with HB 6 but has yet to hear from her. I later number closed with another girl and we talked briefly but it just doesn't feel like i hooked them. Like I'm struggling with DHV? i feel like lack of wanting to text me is due to lack of attraction. This example i tried impressing too many girls maybe, didn't pick a target and i understand....but there are other examples where i do lock in and pick a target and still I feel like i haven't hooked them.

Any articles or videos or any advice at all would help. Thank you guys in advance for reading this and i hope it migt help someone else in the future.
Author:  fox_theone [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:21 am ]
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First up the cube is a game that works best in isolation. Set it aside for then. A group of people around when doing the cube or a cold read may discover how it works.

Have you tried keeping healthy kino? Match their energy when they respond to you or go higher.
A good technique for determining if you have rapport is to take a step or 2 back and see if they walk toward you. It tells you you've hooked them.
I get the feeling you're a little uncomfortable in sets still and perhaps you don't believe in yourself. Believing you can hook them is half the battle. Just pretend you have and interact with them like that. It helps.

Stack all of your games and DHVs in a natural order. Let's say you start with the "Who lies more opener" go to the lying game next. There are a couple of them. Maybe esp will be next. Just let it flow and keep it entertaining. Good luck
Author:  Mentalrazorback [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:50 am ]
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Maybe because you are so focused on impressing the girls, they thought you seemed needy or insecure. If that was the case you wouldn't really have stood much of a chance. You need to be really energised in the set and draw them in through your positivity. Too much DHVing can come accross as needy in my opinion. It needs to be subtle and you must make sure you don't seem like you're seeking their approval.
Author:  curazyboy [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:44 pm ]
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Fox: I do keep healthy kino. A high five, a touch to the back while i lean in, or even a hand to the side of the face. Which is what i did in this set as well. I definately will have to try that step back technique, that seems like a good indicator as to where you are. The "stacking in order" makes sense. That might be what i have to work on to make it come together.

Mental: My energy sometimes can be too much i think, maybe i should tone it down a little. And not worry about not having enough DHV.

Thanks Guys :)
Author:  michael_darcy [ Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:42 pm ]
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Why are you talking to HB5s and HB6s? I thought we politely pretended nothing existed below HB7
Author:  curazyboy [ Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:07 pm ]
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lol!...true....hey it was the first set of the night (warm up) but i still want the effect!
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