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| Author: | BrianTampa [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Same Night Action pulled from clubs |
I have a few weak points , but there is only one thing that actually is bugging me at the moment. I simply do not get very much same night makeouts or sex. I do fairly well mingling and chatting and getting phone numbers. I am older, but I get compliments on my looks and I look/act/dress younger than I am. So , basically I am doing something wrong, or perhaps not doing something at all that is necessary. If anyone is good at same night lays, or same night makeouts, feel free to offer any tips. |
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| Author: | Brawndo [ Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:12 am ] |
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If you have a copy of The Game, there's a section in there where Style talks about how it's actually better to not make out with a girl that night. I can't remember where it's at, I wanna say right after the Porcelain Twinz, but I think his theory is something like you leave the woman wanting more if you don't make out with her that night. Or maybe you tell her to kiss your cheek but that's it. I think the ultimate goal was you want to have the woman waiting for more and to get her thinking "all these other guys tried making out with me, why hasn't he?" The only thing that I can say is kino, kino and more kino. There's a video that I got when I joined last night where Gambler talks about when he leans in to a woman during conversation because it's a loud bar. As he leans in, he makes eye contact with her, almost makes it seem like he's going to kiss her, but when he gets a couple inches from lips to lips he casually slips to the side to talk into her ear to continue the convo. |
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| Author: | BrianTampa [ Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:37 am ] |
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I guess what I am looking for is some more immediate passion. I want the woman to want to get down right then and there, and then of course I could pull back and make her wait for it. I have done some more thinking and I think I am missing something in the whole "attraction building" phase. Maybe somebody could give some examples of stuff they actually have used to get a woman juiced up. I mean besides kino. Everybody kino's, I think its the other stuff that must make the difference. |
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| Author: | BrianTampa [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:16 am ] |
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I have had a bit more experience and also read some british pua stuff (gunwitch?) on the internet and I think I have had a revelation. Pardon me if this seems obvious to you. It is true what you said about pua material emphasizing getting numbers and setting up "day 2's" and such, rather than just going for broke right then. Getting a makeout or sex the same night is really more like "hooking up" rather than "picking up". "hooking up" is just physical attraction plus some aggressiveness. |
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| Author: | Zephyrine [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:32 pm ] |
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There is a miniscule subset of women who go home with men the night they meet them without copious amounts of alcohol being involved. And I can tell you right now, that most girls either are in that subset, or they are not. And there are few converts to that elite group of ladies. It just isn't a comfortable place for most of us. So either practice being patient, or learn how to identify that subset more effectively. |
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| Author: | Riott [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:41 am ] |
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I had a similar problem, and then I discovered sexual framing. Sexual framing is creating the underlying meaning of the interaction as we're going to have sex as soon as possible. When frames are set it removes a lot of common barriers that women have against being sexual right away. If there's no barriers, it just makes it a lot easier for a women to hook up with you. Examples of these frames are We're nonjudgmental I don't kiss and tell She goes after what she wants She's sexually aggressive with people she finds attractive It won't get weird Frames can be created a lot of different ways. Examples include story telling, the bait hook reel release method works, but there is other methods in which you can set these frames in the interaction. If you really want to get better at same night action, I really recommend Sinn and Captain Jack's material- they're amazing at this kind of stuff. Hope that helps. |
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