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Author:  twncntry [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Cocky Funny and being too annoying
I'm quite new to PU... David Deangelo's material has a nice, natural feel to it, so I'm doing the Cocky Comedy routines with people.

But I think I'm coming across as the annoying immature guy.

How do you strike a balance between being cocky/funny and being cool?

I'm working on HB6s to HB8s right now. I just neg the shit out of most girls, but I'm noticing that this is actually coming across as DLV rather than DHV. I have had results with ONE HB5, but nothing after that.

I'm at a loss here... how much do you guys neg? and how do you strike a balance between negging and comfort building?
Author:  JSmooth [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cocky Funny and being too annoying
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I'm quite new to PU... David Deangelo's material has a nice, natural feel to it, so I'm doing the Cocky Comedy routines with people.

But I think I'm coming across as the annoying immature guy.

How do you strike a balance between being cocky/funny and being cool?

I'm working on HB6s to HB8s right now. I just neg the shit out of most girls, but I'm noticing that this is actually coming across as DLV rather than DHV. I have had results with ONE HB5, but nothing after that.

I'm at a loss here... how much do you guys neg? and how do you strike a balance between negging and comfort building?
I remember that David DeAngelo once said that he wished he could rename Cocky Comedy to "Confident Comedy" or almost anything else. The reason for him saying this is most people went more cocky than funny most of the time.

Finding the right balance of being cocky/funny and being cool is only something you can do by going out and seeing what works and where the line is for you and your personality. I've seen some people get away with stuff I couldn't, just because it doesn't work for my personality. Learning where this line is called "calibration" and it's only obtained from going out in the field and practicing.

I developed my own calibration after a month or so, but then realized as I got better how much more I could push the envelope once I had the confidence.

Negs... wow I could write a whole post on negging and I have. stop-negging-the-hell-out-of-women-vt32 ... light=stop

Anyways, I'll try to some it up that the guys who invented negging Mystery, and a few others designed these for HB9s and 10s. They were never intended for HB5s through 7s. Even for a HB10, you shouldn't need more than 3 good negs, ever!
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I just neg the shit out of most girls
If you feel like you do then there is something else wrong in your game that needs to be fixed. As a matter of fact a lot of people can do game and not use a single neg all night long. Negging it's some magic attraction spell where you walk up open her, neg her 3 times and she loves you. With that in mind please don't overdo the negs! :)

Try using a night where you don't neg at all. Instead use your body language to show disinterest, it is very powerful. Also, you can always use False Disqualifiers...those are the things like "OMG you're nurse, I can't even talk to you right now...:wink:"

Hope this helps out man!
Author:  Johnny B. [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:26 pm ]
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You being C&F is related to your persona ( your sense of humour ) if this is something that stems up from the inside. If not, than i would suggest you to dropp it ( dont act, be the best you ) because otherwise there is a chance that you are acting in a way that aint "natural" for you. When so, you may be more dick than cocky because you dont know how to do it naturally and this may cost you multiple sets.

(When being C&F is natural to you:)
The only advice to this ( from me ) would be that when you are interacting in that set of yours, observe how they respond when you are talking to them ( Observe their bodylanguage such as eye movement or their tone of voice when they are responding back with words ). If you can see that they are being annoyed by you being too cocky than tune it down slowly a notch. But, dont make the mistake that you start screaming sorry and crawling on the floor just because she is irritated. This only eats your orginal value which she gave to you when you were talking to her. Why? Because you first had balls and suddenly you just lost them when she anwsered back to your fire. Instead, tune it down a bit step by step slowly without serving your dick on a plate. If you suddenly start acting vice versa compared to what you did when you were talking to her, she has to re- valuate you due to your new behaviour which can create a conflict inside her head and this may have an impact concerning your succes.

[ Johnny B ]
Author:  Nihro [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:10 am ]
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Something I've found to keep in mind with the cocky-funny route is to toe the line with the material. People should be constantly wondering if you're being serious or just messing around. I know if I go too far in with the frame then I come off as a dick, but if I keep it playful then you seem mysterious and different. I really only use this strategy because it's part of my personality, I'm naturally a wise-ass. An example of this is if I'm in a bar or at a party and a song comes on that is either super "gangsta" rap or extremely sexual I usually just throw out the "you know the guy who wrote this based a majority of it off of an analysis of my life," I act like I'm completely serious and keep eye contact with a straight face but the body language and the material itself makes it obvious that I'm probably joking. There's a fine line between asshole and clown, that's all you have to keep in mind.

Oh and as far as negs go, I usually keep mine situational just like negging with the guys. They should be playful and obviously a joke, but there should be a hint of possible truth. I don't use negs consciously though if they feel like a routine to you there's a higher chance of insult.
Author:  Conker [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:24 am ]
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Hey twncntry, replying directly to your post (haven't read the others).

It's very simple. It's David D's fault for not putting enough emphasis on the goal being to have a fun time. Saying negative things is not the way to go.

If you've ever seen good friends or lovers "pay each other out", it's in a fun way, and is obviously funny. THat's what negging is. The reason why the "negging" term was invented, and so much emphasis put on it, is most guys are affraid to say even the slightest bad thing about a hot girl, even if it's a harmless funny comment, or something to stir her up, if you know what I mean.

Like one time a girl complimented me on my shirt, and I said "thanks!" with a genuine smile, then with a sly grin "don't know about yours though, it's full of holes (pulling at it as I said it, it was a net sort of pattern) and she replied "oh you know, that's what you get when you're poor" and gave me a friendly slap on the shoulder and smiled.
Author:  _Manna_ [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:51 am ]
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run shit like a baller and you won't have any problems
Author:  twncntry [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:12 am ]
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I remember that David DeAngelo once said that he wished he could rename Cocky Comedy to "Confident Comedy" or almost anything else. The reason for him saying this is most people went more cocky than funny most of the time.
That makes SO MUCH SENSE! I was blowing Cocky so out of proportion. Still do, but I'm balancing it out now.
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Try using a night where you don't neg at all. Instead use your body language to show disinterest, it is very powerful. Also, you can always use False Disqualifiers...those are the things like "OMG you're nurse, I can't even talk to you right now..."
Does that mean you're disqualifying her as being suited for you? or are you disqualifying yourself as an interested suitor?

and, how different is this from negs?


[/quote]Something I've found to keep in mind with the cocky-funny route is to toe the line with the material. People should be constantly wondering if you're being serious or just messing around. [/quote]

One thing ive noticed is that many women from different cultures, dont like it even if you joke and mess around. i would laugh it off and RUN in the opposite direction if this happens.
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It's very simple. It's David D's fault for not putting enough emphasis on the goal being to have a fun time. Saying negative things is not the way to go.
That really sums it up very well... negative things, hmm.
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run shit like a baller and you won't have any problems
Yeah its like, if you think you're doing something wrong, it gives the opposite person social justification to be pissed off at you, right?[/quote]
Author:  marloice [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Well
SPAM
im dating two HB's an 8 and a 10 respectively.
Now
the 8 needed a couple negs " U'dl look so much better if u had ur teeth whitened"
the ten
I negged almost contanstly from wen i met her to the comfort phase
Ur so demanding
Uve just got to be the centre of attention dont u
jesus christ i took u to that party last night and all u did was embarass me
i can dress u up, u look good but i cant take u anywere
u look like a real life barbie doll.
The point is
the hotter the girl
the more u neg
and bro last word
step up and try and talk to more quality girls
fight in the heavyweight division, get beat up and ull learn much more than if u fought bums
if that analogy makes sense
take urself out of ur comfort zone
Author:  Conker [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:50 am ]
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Good advice.
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