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| Author: | Top HigHligHts [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | problem on the HOOK POINT ...........help |
i have some problems in the hook point ...my openers are greate but i dont know i dont make the conection that i want ...so then girls get bored ...i dont know if is because i dont have nothing ells to say or what im allready saying (to her ) is not in the correct way ....i used 5 lies ,ESP, but this chikcs dont respond i dont know......HELP |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:27 am ] |
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It happens. Could be that you're milking your openers & routines by making them too long or taking too long to get to the point. You should be stacking routines as Matador of the Venusian Arts would say,stack and snip-run an opener then cut it even before they respond. Remember,the goal is to attract,not have them respond-which doesnt build attraction. So stop waiting on their reactions!!! Deliver your piece,then stacc forth!! Dont wait to see how they react!!!You're being too outcome dependent. So,deliver you opener or routine,then cut it(at times),then deliver other routine if have any.Dont milk a thread or routine!! If you sense that they're not into it,move the fuck on to another thread! You've been draining your sets with probably long-ass boring routines then waiting for their reactions. |
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| Author: | Top HigHligHts [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:29 pm ] |
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you are right man i didnt notice it but i wait for them to respond ,and that makes the opners routines (everything) bore....thanks man ......one quick question wath should i say to start the atraccion ? |
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| Author: | Johnny B. [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: problem on the HOOK POINT ...........help |
Quote: i have some problems in the hook point ...my openers are greate but i dont know i dont make the conection that i want ...so then girls get bored ...i dont know if is because i dont have nothing ells to say or what im allready saying (to her ) is not in the correct way ....i used 5 lies ,ESP, but this chikcs dont respond i dont know......HELP
Focus on your inner game. Would you want a present full of crap even if it was nicely wrapped into a golden paper?If your inner game is weak ( which can be spotted the way you act = bodylanguage/ behaviour and the way you speak= vocal dominance ) than whats the value of your routines? Would you sleep with a girl who is annoying as hell eventough he would show you a coin trick? Dont build up your house to a drowning soil. Instead, find a solid foundation and than start your building. So my advice to you is that concentrate more to your bodylanguage, vocal dominance and LISTEN what she has to say and then use those things as a weapon inorder to get deeper. Try to dropp your routines and try to manage without them. If you do this, than what is your value than? This is the main question. "Can you be confident and one with yourself without those canned routines?" If not, than where is the problem? Is it in you or is it in the routines? "You need questions to find answers" What are your real sticking points and what could you do to solve these problems. Dont be affraid to do mistakes because thats the way you really learn. Kick your ass out of that comfort zone and try new things. Dont ignore your mistakes, learn from them. Learn to be one with yourself instead of being one with your routines. [ Johnny B ] |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:08 pm ] |
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Wow,Jonny B answered that one thoroughly. It comes down to an inner game thing in this case.Work on your inner game. |
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