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Author:  Overeager [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:14 pm ]
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All right, here it is. We are talking about 1sets approached in broad daylight, for example a girl waiting for someone/walking her dog in the park.

There are the talkative ones, you open, she answers, you comment on her answer, possibly disqualify, make a dhv routine, expect iois, you are making a decent conversation. Start building rapport, make some kino escalation, phone close. (It's sort of weird to expect a girl you just met outside to make out with you after 20 minutes of conversation, so no kiss-closing till day2.)

Anyway, there are those other ones that as soon as you open with a charming smile, start looking at you as if you are doing something terribly wrong.

What my question is, how do I interest one of those girls ? How do I move from the opener to mid-game ? I mean, me and my wing both freak out when one of us meets this super hot HB9 somewhere and she just seems to be bothered by a nice guy talking about his friend's jealous girlfriend. :wink:

I'm pretty sure many of you guys have encountered this problem, and yeah, it's normal to get rejected once in a while, but let's discuss how to prevent this particular moment. GO!

Author:  JSmooth [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:52 pm ]
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First of all, singles during the day time you have to be Direct. None of this, "Hey Let me get your opinion on..." type of stuff. You need to be direct and to the point.

In a night club its expected people are going to be hanging around in this location killing time. Its during the day and its likely she has stuff to do or errands to run. I think being direct is the best way to avoid this. At night you have time to run opinion openers, dhv, etc. During the day we have a much shorter time span to work with.

*I'm not saying indirect approaches don't work during the day, just that typically direct approaches work better.*

Attraction is assumed some during the day. You are being judge by your looks. She only has a few moments to judge a book by its cover based on what you're wearing, your voice tonalities, good eye contact, if you're smiling, and your body language mostly. Make sure to work on these areas more than anything else.

Next the opening line. Keep it simple and to the point. Something like, "Hi, I saw you over here and I wanted to come see what you're all about. I'm Jon"

You'll find that these simple tips will help more than anything.

Author:  jbrad [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:11 pm ]
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You don't have to be direct, thats clearly NOT the problem here.


You just don't have that certain confidence yet that comes from opening TONS OF SETS. Further you need to watch guys who are really good and see how they do it. If you live in NYC or near it I can recommend guys for sure, just PM me.

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