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Author:  Holding on [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  2 minute convo
Was out in the day, saw a girl at the bus stop I was walking towards her as she was sitting there ,I signaled for her to take out her head phones she does so, I then go direct , we then banter for a few more seconds, she's smiling and larghing, I tell her I've got to get going and ask for a quick number, she said her bf wouldn't approve of that, I say but would he approve of you flirting with me bla bla bla.

My question is as we was only talking for a couple of minutes and it was going so well untill I tryed to get the # ,why is it when I go for the # close she says she has a bf, why didn't she just say she had a bf at the begining, could it be that she needed to get to know me some more or that she really had a bf( even though she was leading me on )

Thanks
Author:  Fr33stylez [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 minute convo
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Was out in the day, saw a girl at the bus stop I was walking towards her as she was sitting there ,I signaled for her to take out her head phones she does so, I then go direct , we then banter for a few more seconds, she's smiling and larghing, I tell her I've got to get going and ask for a quick number, she said her bf wouldn't approve of that, I say but would he approve of you flirting with me bla bla bla.

My question is as we was only talking for a couple of minutes and it was going so well untill I tryed to get the # ,why is it when I go for the # close she says she has a bf, why didn't she just say she had a bf at the begining, could it be that she needed to get to know me some more or that she really had a bf( even though she was leading me on )

Thanks
That's a tough one.
Did you get the number in the end though?
She probably didnt tell you cos she actually liked you/your approach, and it's only when it's in direct violation of an imaginery 'code of conduct' that she gets abit worried that her bf wont want her to give you the number.
Eg: she's not doing anything against the bf if she just talks to u, so no point telling u about the bf yet.. once u go for the number, then that's when alarm bells ring.. and she looks forward >>"if i give the number, he will want a date, he will want another date, he will want to kiss me, he will want to fuck me, he will want to leave me" Nobody gets another's number for no reason, just to fill their phonebook.. So all these alarm bells go off. And since she has a bf, that's why she couldnt give it to u.

Of course the flip side is that she in fact didnt have a bf, but didnt feel comfortable/didnt trust you enough yet to give her number to you. A Quick remedy for that, is stay in set longer, build on commonalities (find something you both like and talk about it - Music, Sports, Media, Dildos, anything!), Do Future projections (take her on a ride into the future, where you two are married or seomthing. Say: "omg, Can you imagine us as one of those married couples, we'd never get along, we would never be able to decide who does what, and then we'd have to break up and then you'd get the house in hawaii, and i'd keep the dog.") - Tailor this to the convo.
And Finally, Make an us Vs. them mentality between the two of you, this whole 'conspiracy' thing, makes you two seem UNITED.
All this should help to increase comfort and trust and attraction between the two of you.

Cheers,
~ Fr33stylez
Author:  Holding on [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:16 pm ]
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Great advice man , no I didn't get the number as the whole reason I had to get going was I really had to get going :lol: If I stayed and plowed then that might have been a different story.

Quote: she's not doing anything against the bf if she just talks to u, so no point telling u about the bf yet

In my opinion If she accepts the Direct approach she's leading you on, so there for she's accepted that you could carry on hitting on her and start to violate the having a bf 'code of conduct' or the Relationship 'code of conduct' if theres even one?

Example of a guy going up to a girl that has a bf:
Random dude/PuA whatever...Goes up to a guys gf calls her cute and tells her he wants to get to know her and she carrys on talking to him but he doesn't ask her for a number so quick, he stays in set longer and she begins to like him as a friend,after a little wile they get a reason to swop numbers.I think this guy is going to take every opportunity he gets to try and fuck her.

However...You go up and do a Direct Approach on another girl, straight away she tells you she has a bf, I would either think she's not attracted, I did a bad approach or she really has a bf.

I really don't no If some guys approve of other guys hitting on there gf and the gf accepting other guys hitting on her but I would like to think If she really loved her bf and was genuine enough as a person she would tell you straight away she had a bf, not flirt , smile and lead you on.Do girls with bfs really let other guys hit on them?

I'm putting this one down as to she needed more comfort and trust before she gave me her number .Which some girls properly do.

Thanks
Author:  vonged [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:26 pm ]
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Try saying this whenever they say they have a bf when you try to number close "what? who said i wanted to date you? i just wanted to have you as a friend" I like seeing how they respond to that.
Author:  Fr33stylez [ Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:32 pm ]
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Quote:
Great advice man , no I didn't get the number as the whole reason I had to get going was I really had to get going :lol: If I stayed and plowed then that might have been a different story.

Quote: she's not doing anything against the bf if she just talks to u, so no point telling u about the bf yet

In my opinion If she accepts the Direct approach she's leading you on, so there for she's accepted that you could carry on hitting on her and start to violate the having a bf 'code of conduct' or the Relationship 'code of conduct' if theres even one?

Example of a guy going up to a girl that has a bf:
Random dude/PuA whatever...Goes up to a guys gf calls her cute and tells her he wants to get to know her and she carrys on talking to him but he doesn't ask her for a number so quick, he stays in set longer and she begins to like him as a friend,after a little wile they get a reason to swop numbers.I think this guy is going to take every opportunity he gets to try and fuck her.

However...You go up and do a Direct Approach on another girl, straight away she tells you she has a bf, I would either think she's not attracted, I did a bad approach or she really has a bf.

I really don't no If some guys approve of other guys hitting on there gf and the gf accepting other guys hitting on her but I would like to think If she really loved her bf and was genuine enough as a person she would tell you straight away she had a bf, not flirt , smile and lead you on.Do girls with bfs really let other guys hit on them?

I'm putting this one down as to she needed more comfort and trust before she gave me her number .Which some girls properly do.

Thanks
Yeah i see what you mean, but she doesnt wanna let you know about the bf yet cos a) Maybe she is leading you on, but b) (the most likely option), She's enjoying it..
It's like if someone were to start giving you a blowjob... It's really hard to stop when they're in the middle of it, cos you're enjoying it too much.. you wouldnt wanna stop them... i spose its kinda like that :P

For myself, if i feel i've stayed in set long enough, and they give me the bf line shit, i take that as a massive IOD, and i bounce. If it was a test, fuck them, they missed out. They're loss, NEXT!! :)
Of course if i REALLY liked them, i'd probs stay and try to 'destroy' the bf. With like "so what's it like to live in the perfect relationship" and all of a sudden she'll belike: "Well it's not 'perfect'..." and she'll start bad mouthing the bf and the relationship... Of course, no matter what, ALWAYS take the bf side, so that she keeps riping into him!
Author:  Holding on [ Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:55 pm ]
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If that's the way it is, then I've got to start seeing it like that but I haven't made my mind totaly up about that yet.Anyhow...I'm downloading your book on Day Game I'm going to read It tonight and If I have any questions I'm going to Pm you and hopefully you can get back to me.

Thanks again for the advice your a real asset :D :D :D
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