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| Author: | Ethan Hewitt [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | SHBs - Getting a hook point |
This seems to be one area that I'm having a tough time breaking down. I can game all the rest confidently, I know what I'm doing and can tell where the interaction is going. But the SHBs are another matter. They have this shield, not so much bitchness, but a pure arrogance and they just seem to treat you like the next guy from my experience the other night no matter what you say or how you say it. So, I was at a party the other night. 4 SHBs came strolling in, their got everyone's attention, girls and guys alike. They were extravagantly dressed, clevage, leg, make up, the whole works. They broke up into pairs, 2 were coming along down the bar. I broke from my wingman and stood in their way, made eye contact and they even opened me with a couple of the usual boring questions. It was a nice surprise to get opened by SHBs. However, I wasn't going to starting jumping through their easy hoops and went straight for the challange mode. 'Guess' I replied, they made some feeble efforts like they didn't want to jump through my hoops. Ok, I was thinking this bait, hook, release method should be in A3, but I'm still in A1. I thought I need to go back, neg and DHV myself. But one girl wasn't in to it at all, she had noticeably poor eye contact and body language although she was dressed to impressed. Before I had the chance to do anything else My wing came in and they were asking him the same stuff, I exited this set. Although I think I should have maintained the frame, stayed in set and have gone with the best friends test or the ESP number routine, but oh well. Then later on I caught up with the other two. Made the common approach. Lean back, didn't enter face on blah blah blah, now one of the girls immediately turned around and faced the bar, didn't even listen to the opener, I took that as a huge IOD, I was going to open the other one and then get the other girl back in the interaction. So I got through A1 and A2 with this girl, but I wasn't enjoying it, her phone went, I exited. I spoke to one of my hired guns at the bar and then commented how these four girls weren't really welcome at the party as a lot of people didn't like their attitude, they weren't sociable and had this stench of bitchness and pure arrogance. I understand that not everyone is going to appreciate your efforts and you can't win them all, But for my learning curve, help needed. I just couldn't seem to get a hook point. I didn't let this affect me at the party as I went around the bar social proofing myself, talking to pretty much everyone having a good time. Although the other girls I talked to weren't anywhere near SHB material they were more fun I must say. I even noticed towards the end of the night the four girls were just sitting in a corner by themselves, all the guys had given up and now I know why these SHBs are so miserable at times. If only they'd drop the act. We don't have that many SHBs in Hong Kong like the US and I've had a lot of success with all the other girls but SHBs, hmmm.........sticking point. |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:10 pm ] |
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The ulitmate hook, is having a HIGH ENERGY and HAVING FUN! If you are opening a set having a good time you need to come in at an energy level slightly higher than theirs. Being able to be show this enthuisiasm and energy is going to hook sets like no tomorrow. But remember your actions have to back up your words. |
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