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| Author: | brha [ Sun May 31, 2009 6:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | problems with isolation |
I have been in the game for some time now. My ability to open girls is great, my skills on the dancefloor is superb, i can get attraction and kiss close a girl really fast (kiss like 2-3 girls per weekend) but my ability to isolate is not as good as my other seduction skills, this is really hurting my otherwise good game. A couple of examples to illustrate my point: I walk towards the bar and I see this girl I know a little. She sees me smiles and comes towards me Hb 7: Somebody spilled something on me, look! My skirt is all wet! Brha: off course your wet, your standing next to me! She laughs, smiles and touches her hair. I act immidiately, pull the trigger and kiss her. After that we just kinda stood there for a couple of seconds (was a little awkward). She touches my arm, says something and leaves... I dance with this hot girl and get to dance with her outside of her group. I knew all of her friends since she studies the same as me and it’s obvious she’s into me. But we kinda just danced and danced and danced untill she has to go… I was really scared of trying to isolating her to a more quit place and wonder what to say and do in a situation like that… Im standing outside the club smoking with lot’s of other people around me. This babe opens me up and we start chatting. She finnishes her smoke berfore me and goes innside. Right after that another chick starts chatting me up (social proof i guess). We just chat a bit, finnish our smokes, we go inside and part ways. There were some chairs and tables outside so i guess i should have tried something… Im also wondering how much compliance one has after kissing a girl? Is it just about attraction in order to isolate? How much is it a question of comfort and compliance? How can one gauge if a girl is ready to be isolated? |
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| Author: | Kalel [ Sun May 31, 2009 8:21 am ] |
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It seems to me that the only reason you can't isolate a girl is because you are afraid to. You are projecting your fears onto the woman. It's all in your head. You only think doesn't want to be isolated, she probably does. It's natural to be afraid of isolating, if you don't have much experience initiating before. It's like another form of approach anxiety. You obviously got over your fear of the initial approach, now you have to get over your fear of isolating the same way. You got over your AA by doing what scared you until you weren't afraid of it anymore. Same thing with isolating. Just try isolating girls, calibrate and adjust from experience, then it won't be a problem anymore. The fact of the matter is that women must be lead for everything. They are rarely going to ever initiate anything. It's your job as a man to lead them were you want them to go. If you are confident enough they will follow you, regardless of where you lead them. |
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| Author: | Jaybot [ Sun May 31, 2009 6:54 pm ] |
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You should get your conversational skills up a touch before you try to isolate IMO seems like you don't say much. Try sarging in bars or during the day, then once your conversation is tight you will have already been chatting to girls and virtually isolating (talking 1 on 1 with a girl in a set) so yar thats what I would advise x |
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| Author: | brha [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:24 pm ] |
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I got over my fear of isolation, like you said Kalel, it was all in my head. Wrote down some beliefs and changed them using a nlp scrooge pattern technique here where my previous beliefs - I risk a giant loss if I try to isolate a girl and it doesn't work out - It's super hard trying to isolate a girl - after I have kissed a girl, than I risk loosing the ground I have conquered by trying to isolate pretty bad beliefs, huh? These are the new ones: - I have to isolate a girl in order to avoid a gigantic defeat - with a little calibrating, isolation is very easy - After one has kissed a girl, than one has everything one needs to isolate been having success isolating the ladies, no needless fear anymore, hope this helps others with the same problem |
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| Author: | Kalel [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:58 am ] |
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I am glad to hear that. Good for you! |
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