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Author:  dappah... [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:46 pm ]
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So i'm planning to meet this girl i met of the internet we plan to meet this coming friday
we been talking alot through text , and she has also rang me once so to my success so far
she sends me this text :

haha i have been told to tell you that ur a lucky guy because my mate just come round and asked what i was doing this friday cuz he wanted me to go pub with him and i said i carn't because i am going to london to see this boy and he was like ah, u spoil sport and then i asked him what i am gunna wear because i am not sure so he said yeah go put on what
u r thinking of and i'll tell u from a mans point of view what i think of it...so i showed him and he said u tell that fuking bloke that hes fucking lucky because u look beautiful (her-name) ... man i wish i was
taking u out when u look this good .... haha so u have been told babe hahahaha x

anyone no what she is trying to say by sending me this and any good responses to reply back with

thanks , dappah

Author:  R.G. [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:28 pm ]
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Hey dude :)

Hope you’re feeling good. This is pretty cool, well played on getting her to come to London for ya. I live in Cambridge. Ok, so in my opinion there are a few reasons she said what she said:

1. She genuinely feels a little bad that she’s going all the way to London to meet a stranger over the net rather than get an easy lay with this random dude.
2. She’s trying to DHV.
3. By DHV’ing, she’s shit testing you by watching for your response. (Is it worth the effort for her?)

I think it may be a combination of all 3. It’s kinda interesting that she wrote so much over text, and actually went out of her way to qualify herself so much to you. Your game must have been pretty tight so far, well played man :).

Right, Dappah, so how are we going to respond? Well, take it as a kind of shit test. We can’t just jump into her hoop and play into her hands by thanking her and pussying up to her for coming when some other chode was pussying up to her. At the same time, you don’t just want to totally throw away her hoop because you need to vibe a little to show her that you are worth it. YOU DO NOT want to fucking qualify yourself though. She has placed you in a position of very high value. Accept that and don’t question it; believe it and act it. You are the man in her life, not some retarded chode putting her on a pedestal.

This is a game of frame control. Her text as actually VERY CLEVER (a great example of clever bitch language), because although she is overtly putting you on a pedestal, the subtext is ACTUALLY, “are you good enough for all this effort.” How clever is that? She’s testing you and attempting to control the frame covertly, WHILST at face value doing the opposite. As HB9 texted to me the other day: “Dayam.”

So a response like:

“Haha. Of course, who wouldn’t want to come and meet the dudiest dude in the world. That boy sounds like a good lad, you ought not to keep using poor chaps like that :). I hope he’s right though. Because this gangstar don’t just see any girls you know. Listen, thanks for coming over by the way. Bring a Mars bar. There’s a very special reason for this, it’ll be a surprise…”

Broken down:

“Haha. Of course, who wouldn’t want to come and meet the dudiest dude in the world.”

This is actually a pretty lame example of C&F, but basically cocky it out and use a funny trait, I used ‘dudey’. If you use a serious trait it will just be too cocky and not enough funny. If you have an inside joke it’d be better, like if you talked about fish earlier then say “of course, who wouldn’t want to meet the man with the greatest taste in fish ever.”

“That boy sounds like a good lad, you ought not to keep using poor chaps like that :).”

This is a top line because it accomplishes many things. She is expecting you to get defensive – that is her shit test. But instead, you actually take HIS side and are really nice about him (hence ‘good lad’). BUT at the same time, you are massively lowering his value by implicitly framing him as a social retard. Furthermore, you refer to him as ‘boy’, ‘lad’, as if he is inferior. Finally, this is like a false disqualifier. You are setting them two up, exactly the opposite of what she expects. Good stuff.

“I hope he’s right though. Because this gangstar don’t just see any girls you know.”

She’s tested you, now it’s your turn to test her. It’s only fair. We’ve reversed the screening role and now WE are making HER qualify, rather than the other way. You’re also conveying that you have standards and in a way that she has ‘earnt’ you. You can work on this further later. Remember whilst you should be the man and leading, ideally you want her to be trying to pick you up.

“Listen, thanks for coming over by the way. Bring a Mars bar. There’s a very special reason for this, it’ll be a surprise…”

The first part is just being a genuine nice guy. Being a PUA doesn’t always mean being a fucking loser. It’s ok to be appreciative too. The Mars bar bit I cannot take credit for, I read it somewhere on this forum a while back. Basically when she brings it, you just say “thanks.” And then open it and eat it. It’s serious C&F. Hilarious stuff. You end on a cliff hanger to keep her interested and DHV.

There are some ideas I’ve thrown around for you. Basically we’ve evaded her hoop which is wired with shit-test explosives, and thrown our own hoop for her to jump into, whilst at the same time keeping and controlling the frame and DHV’ing.

Happy days. Hope this helps buddy :). Let me know how it goes.

Author:  dappah... [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:23 pm ]
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so i read over your opinion and throught it was gold, replyed with a modified verson of your response, to fit my style of play and she texted back saying..are you serious? bring a mars bar,your having a largh ...lol
yeah my mate is luvly

so the shit test has been disarmed lol

now i'm thinking of a response to give her to her last text can you help with this one aswel

thanks, dappah

Author:  R.G. [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:33 pm ]
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Hey buddy =)

Overall, awesome. Sounds good, I like the way this has played out with her comment about her ‘mate’. We’ve forced her to go defensive on him, and as a bonus she’s referred to him as ‘mate’ to show that there is no sexual relations between them two in response to the way you framed them two. So she has affirmed that she wants to get with you, not him.

To deal with her aloofness about the mars bar tack, it’s best not to back down. I’ll give you a few classic persuasion techniques to just massage her into your hoop :).

Start with what we call in NLP a ‘universal acceptance frame’. Posh words for a simple idea – you basically throw a massive hoop that she can’t not jump into, because everyone fits into it.

So,

“You like to have fun right? Because I’ve got an awesome magic trick to show with a Mars bar. But I don’t know if you can handle it.”

That’s the jist of what I would respond with. So you start with a massive hoop – everyone likes to have fun. By agreeing to that she subconsciously agrees to the next thing you say. Using the word ‘because’ alone increases persuasion by about a third from psychological studies. So we bang that in too. Finally, we end with the challenge, because girls love challenges. In doing so we shift the emphasis from the Mars bar (which is fast becoming a dead thread, we don’t want to get locked into it) to her personally. This is good. Always relate things to her personally.

If you’re going to use this you can dress the overall comment up and adjust it to your taste. I would start by laughing just because her comment was a bit bitchy. Something like:

“Hahahahha yeah total laugh. Actually no. This is dead serious. You like to have fun right? Because I’ve got an awesome magic trick to show with a Mars bar. But I don’t know if you can handle it. Are you brave or will I have to pat you on the head and tell you bedtime stories?”

So I added a bit of teasing and opening up the topic of bed/bedtime which you can ease into. Always leave avenues for sexual conversation open. Once she takes it further you’ve got the green light. You plant the seeds and wait for the fruits of your labour. Note the contrast in the first line. We're ticking Mystery's attraction switch 'willingness to emote', and other PU ideas in terms of accelerating her emotions. Also the stark contrast is a good way to make humour.

Hope this helps Dappah, let me know how it goes as always!

Author:  dappah... [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:58 am ]
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Thank you

used it, it worked met up with her last night f-closed

Thanks,

Dappah

Author:  R.G. [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:09 pm ]
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No worries buddy, I'm happy for ya =)

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