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Author:  JMH303 [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Need help with an older woman

So I am a kind of new to this forum but I've been studying this stuff for about 6months. So anyway I go to this dog park nearby and I make a killing with all of the chicks there. Well theres this HB 9 that I have been hanging out with a lot since she started coming to the park. She is also 29 and I am 22. Any way I have really started to enjoy hanging out with her and at first I was just gonna make her a friend and use her as good social proofing/pivot. But I don't think I want her as friend only. Now we only met like 2 weeks ago and have only started to hang out outside the park this past weekend(I'm talking all day hiking one day and skiing another). I am really good at making her laugh and I neg her a lot and she has mentioned that she really enjoys hanging with me. Anyway I guess I have have a problem with escalating and now I am not sure what I can do to change this course I am on. I have never dated someone this much older than me. Do you guys have any suggestions about escalating this to more then what it is? Thanks

Author:  CaptRow [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:21 pm ]
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have u kiss-closed her yet? it seems to me like ur sticking point is kino escalation...do something that involves kino (palm reading), then give her a hug, hold her close, look her in the eyes and use Mystery's kiss close line: "do you want me to kiss you?". here are the possibilities:

if she says:
yes-then kiss her!!
maybe/im not sure/i dont know- tell her "lets find out" then move in for the K
no- tell her something along the lines of "oh, well it seemed you like you had something on ur mind"

good luck dude!

Author:  JMH303 [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:33 pm ]
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You're right, I am definitely having problems with Kino. I appreciate your advice but I was never a big fan of that Mystery line. My problem with this girl is the fact that right now I don't know where I stand(friend or interest). I am just getting mixed signals from this girl, like at the park I was talking to this other cute girl and she came over and basically butted in and started asking me all theses questions about class and other stuff. And then she was the one that suggested we hang out the day after we went skiing even though she did have plans with another friend, which she bailed on to hang out with me. and usually I don't go out with the same person two days in a row but I figured why not. Here is my dilemma( and it sounds kind of AFC), she would make a really solid friend and great pivot so I risk losing that if I go for it and she's not interested, but at the same time I want to start something with this girl because she has so many of the qualities I look for in a girl (athletic, funny, intelligent, sarcastic, and good looking). I am just hoping for some suggestions because this is definitely my major flaw just getting sexual with the girl during hangouts. I am good with night game because when your out girls know what you want but this is more of a day game thing where its just "hanging out." Any suggestions? Thanks again

To clarify I am gonna go for it with her but I need to figure out how I can get sexual with her (meaning get her to think of me in that way) because I dont think I am 100% locked into friend zone but I need this to happen like yesterday because it can turn into that soon.

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