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Author:  The Visionist [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  When a 7 acts like a 10

OK everybody, long story short: I have a crippling oneitis for a girl in my University class. She started the whole thing by grabbing me in our SU months ago and displaying drunken friendliness post-dance, introducing me to her male friends, one of whom she is extremely cushy with despite being officially single.
She and her female friends find me hilarious beyond doubt, and evidently it aint enough, because i've asked her out twice now and gotten negative responses. I DHV like crazy, not enough. I ignore her, she dosen't care. She has a split persona, very occassionaly caring and warm (she even texted me out of the blue asking if I was alright after missing a lesson once) but almost always cold, deflective and seemingly unnattracted to me, despite laughing her hot ass off at my jokes. She never replies anymore to texts or facebook messages.

Im certainly not gonna "give her up". Me and her are in the same class for the next 3 years and my obsession is crushing my game with other girls. I don't live at the uni and so breaking into social circles is ten times harder.
I figure the only way in is to befriend her friends, but she certainly won't introduce them to me, anxious to get rid of me whenever im around them. How do I "go in through the back door" so to speak? Her favourite boy clearly dosen't like me, sees me as a threat. How to befriend him?

Author:  R.G. [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:46 pm ]
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I HATE it when a 7 acts like a 10. Haha. I can't remember the last time I used a neg but I think I might start using them again in this sort of situation. So that's what you can do.

Making girls laugh does not get you laid. Remember that. You have to be the sexworthy guy.

Don't be used for your fun humour. That's great to have but you need a deeper connection with the girl, hence comfort.

The other thing is I don't think 'asking her out' is the right approach. I'm assuming you mean gf/bf status by this. Especially at uni. Instead you should f-close her then transition into a relationship from there.

You sound like you're sarging well though. A part of me says keep doing what you're doing, ploughing and eventually you will strike a chord and get in. But, the more prevalent part expresses an NLP axiom: 'If what you're doing at the moment is not working, DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT'.

So, that's probably what you need to do. My advice is to change your mindset towards f-closing her rather than getting a relationship. That part will follow on.

As for 'going through the backdoor', there's probably a reason why she's not introducing you to her friends. Remember that generally people that age don't go around saying "kate, this is james, james this is katie" etc etc. They just non-verbally 'accept' you by allowing you to spend time in their group. To get into a group of hot girls is hard. You need to game not just one of them but AT LEAST a few. The others have to realise that you are friends of their friends, otherwise 'hot girl bitch coding' means that they can't accept you into their group even if they like you.

So if you want to do the backdoor thing, which is LONG but I suppose more surefire, then find her friends and game them.

Your best approach would be to meet up with her at a party or club or something. Or meet her outside of college somehow.

Overall though, start being the sexworthy guy. DHV is great but don't hit it for some girls, especially ones who have an abundance of high-value guys. You need to convey that you get loads of sex and are good at it, you don't kiss and tell, you are natural and mature about sex, you are willing to take responsibility, and you are socially aware.

Good luck!

Author:  Stetson [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:05 pm ]
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She's single, has boys around her, and one of them is "her favourite boy"?

Sounds like a play'a to me! Which is, by definition, a whore ;).


You just got to keep you'r game up, these ones won't open if you go after them. Good luck.
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Making girls laugh does not get you laid.
Actually... You haven't seen me then :lol:!

Author:  R.G. [ Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:58 pm ]
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In the words of Gunwitch:
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A commonly observed scenario: a woman laughs at guy's jokes, and then ends up having sex with him later on. Predictably, every guy there says, "She must like a guy with a sense of humour", and proceed to go out and ENTERTAIN, rather than seduce women, in hopes that she will like them SOOO much she will jump his bones right there. Not gonna happen unless she is VERY attracted. We wanna work with what looks we have and move them in the right directions for sex better than other guys, not create a non sexual rapport with jokes and funny stories.

When a woman is asked "what do you like in a guy?", she doesn't usually say "LOOKS and GOOD SEX" or else be branded a slut. SO, she grumbles "a guy with a sense of humour". She LIKES those funny men, she doesn't HAVE SEX WITH those funny men unless they happen to be attractive as well as funny.

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