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| Author: | reef [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | 2 things i just can't get over with |
First off i want to say that I am not exactly a newbie thought not an old player, i can easly gain NC's, usually 4 out of 5 aproches during a party. but i have come up with a few sticking points: 1. Day game.. What is the problem? I don't know. When in parties i can open sets easy without even thinking twice about it. I think it is about the opener. I can't open because anything sound ridicules when it is in day time opening, Does anyone have any idia for situational openers that i can add a followup to? i can't open with opinion so probably situational would be easier but i can't seem to follow it up with something clever. 2. Kclosing and further closings phisical rather than a NC. I am not complaining, I know NCing isn't easy also and worth admiration but i lack the phisical touch. I try administering loads of Kino, only leading to getting me to think about it too much and losing the convo hook point and almost getting awkward silences. anyway i just freeze up and find a cool way to NC so i can leave knowing it won't get further than a flowing conversation. Any idias on how i can lead the target to a kiss close or even to a conversation leading to a kiss close? |
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| Author: | R.G. [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:46 am ] |
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Quote: 1. Day game.. What is the problem? I don't know.
I don't have time to address both your questions, but for this one.When in parties i can open sets easy without even thinking twice about it. I've been doing a lot of day game recently and my target is insta-dates. If you're taking the M3 model, you practically have to reverse the comfort & attraction phases. Day game is all about being natural, drop the routines and glossy shit, just be your best self and be interesting, in touch with the situation. My day game has been getting increasingly more direct despite many people saying daygame should be indirect. I find well placed compliments to root why the hell you talked to this girl in the first place helps a lot. You can take back the frame later. I almost always open with a situational opener. In fact, I've been day-gaming for the last few consecutive days, and I use the method where you just go up to the girl you want with nothing in your head. I find this is an awesome method for situational openers because believe it or not, your mind goes straight to your resourceful unconscious to think of something APPROPRIATE to say, appropriate being the key word. To give some examples of recent sets in town: 1. HB8 sitting down at bookstore: "What you reading?" 2. Two-set HB6's eating at McDonalds (Talking to mate); "Actually, maybe these girls can help us..." 3. Sales assistant HB8 "Hey, do you have a good taste in shoes? Good, because..." 4. Random passer-by HB8 "Excuse me, just quickly, you seem like a nice person. Do you know where the nearest train station is? Because..." 5. Café HB7 "Excuse me, I can't stay for long but I saw you sitting there and thought, this girl has a wicked sense of style, I'ma go talk to her. What's your name?" See what I mean? It's really easy. For transitioning, here's a few tips (because most day-game is all about transitioning): 1. Get the woman to invest by asking a question that encourages her to talk about herself. 2. If it's a girl at work, then transition to personal conversational threads asap. 3. Once you've loaded on the comfort/trust in your initial approach, hit her with something out of the blue to get her off auto-pilot and spike attraction. E.g. with the train station set: Random passer-by HB8 Rafiel: "Excuse me, just quickly, you seem like a nice person. Do you know where the nearest train station is? Because I got to meet some friends soon! HB8: "Er yeah it's just in that direction, if you keep going up the road and turn left. You can take a city bu- Rafiel: (interrupting): "HALT! I've only just met you and you're already talking so much! Thanks though, I guess I was right." HB8: "Right about what?" Rafiel: "That you're a nice person, haha. I guess you're shopping today?" 4. Demonstrate some sort of value if possible to give her a reason to re-initiate or reciprocate conversation. This value may just be your confident demeanour and body language. 5. TALK SLOWLY!!!! 6. Kino isn't that important in day game, but where you can, do it. When you exchange names, shake her hand and make a funny comment about her name. Hope this helps. |
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| Author: | reef [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:01 pm ] |
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awsome man, very smooth. Finally something i can relate to and hopfully will help me get over my sticking point. the transition is what i was looking for, i guess i just thought it was called a followup. BTW, what do you think about opinion openers because in the right situation they seem to work just fine, although due to your reply you seem like the anti canned material person. thanks for the advice. reply to my other sticking point when you have the time, other than that any other opinions or solutions would be appriciated |
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