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Author:	Incubus69 [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:20 am ]
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I did a F-R called Terror At The Mall. I noticed some things and you guys can help me. My question is there is any there good ways to hook either a solo person or a set? I'll give you something to go by: STEALTH: Hi, how are you? HB7: Good. STEALTH: What kind of smokes are you smoking? HB7: Newports..I see you smoke the same. STEALTH: Yeah. Doing Christmas shopping... HB7: Yeah. STEALTH: I'm shopping for my little niece she's 9 yrs old - any opinions? HB7: I have a niece - she's twelve...she wants a cell phone, clothes, balh blah blah. STEALTH: A cell phone? Kinda young huh? HB7: Yeah, she's acts mature and looks older than me. STEALTH: Why how old are you? HB7: 30... STEALTH: Really? People sometimes say that I look around 28-30 years old -- hold do you think I look? HB7: laughs I'm not gonna guess - but maybe 26-28. STEALTH: Close...26. This is when the conversation when stale - total silence. I don't know why but I'll figure it out. Probably because I knew she wasn't interested. So, probably in my subconscious I was like, "Don't even bother". Before I sat down, I burped. STEALTH: Laughs at myself that was cute. HB7: Yeah... Like whatever attitude I sat on the bench looking at people take pictures of the Marine Guys and shit like that. Why in the hell am I better at Online Game and it pisses me off I can't do it live or offline or whatever. I wore the shirt and pants like I have in my avatar. The thing is that I noticed - I could easily talk to men and get them to talk - even thought it wasn't my goal. My goal the Mall was to have fun and not give a shit. You know? Conversation with GNC Guy: I walk in store looking around. STEALTH: How are you man? GARY: Good, can I help you? STEALTH: Nah, man just looking. Stopped looking at shit. STEALTH: How was your day bro? GARY: Good man, it was busy as fuck. STEALTH: Laughs GARY: So what's up with the shirt? STEALTH: Laughs Why does it make me look professional? GARY: No, i mean - it's twice the size and a see through - com'on! Are you picking up Chicks? STEALTH: Laughs No, just here for fun! GARY: You're saying you're not here to pick up chicks? STEALTH: Laughs Put it as this way - say if you're at a junction like a bar or a club and you have a mindset only about picking up chicks? How effective do you think you will be? GARY GIVESA THINKING FACE STEALTH: Ah, I'm making you think? Laughs GARY: Yeah! STEALTH: So, instead of focusing on women - if a average guy walks in a junction having fun, not caring about whatever then it's going to be more effective you know? GARY: Laughs I see what you mean! Can you pick up any of these chicks? STEALTH: Laughs Is that a challenge? GARY: Yeah, man! I wanna see you pick up those chicks right there? STEALTH: Laughs Like I said - I'm here to have fun and learn. I've noticed people's body language and socialize more, etc.. We talk about the Hard Core Seller Nail Polish girls who flirt with you and blah bla h blah. He goes to talk to some woman that works in the Washington Mutual bank across of view. I pointed out when he talked to her he used an authority stance which isn't really good for pick-up. So we continued talking and it was time for me to go. My guess is that I'm more myself around with the same sex but with the opposite sex - I'm kinda not. Is there any NLP or any sugguestions I could do any excercises? Thanks for helping your comrade!

Author:	Patrick_Bateman [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:57 am ]
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I actually read something like 30 minutes ago that might help you. I don't if you ever actually had the Hot Woman Syndrome explained but here it is (and its pretty accurate): "...I hate to lay down this fact but as long as beautiful women intimidate you to the point you can’t be yourself, you won’t be successful in dating them. Why? It is about agenda. Ever notice women you are not interested often fall for you? It is because you are confidently yourself around them and have no agenda when you are with them. With a very beautiful woman she evokes in us this base desire to obtain her, to HAVE her. This creates a very predator prey relationship and what does prey do when around a predator? She runs, and runs fast. There is a book I recently read called “The Female Brain” that explains that the part of a woman’s brain that sees and interprets non-verbal signals relating to social interaction such as body language, tonality, and intent, is ten times larger than the corresponding part of a man’s brain. Women can sense when you are not being genuine or when you start having an agenda to HAVE her. Allison Armstrong actually goes so far to say that a relationship where you are extremely attracted to her won’t ever work. I personally feel that is going too far. However she has a point. The more attracted you are the more agenda you will have and the less yourself you will be. So what is the antidote for HWS (Hot Woman Syndrome)? The antidote is stop putting her up on a pedestal!!! If you knew she ripped the heads off of small animals in her spare time would you still be attracted to her? If that doesn’t turn you off then insert any morally repugnant thing she could do and assume she just might. The fact is you don’t know her. Even after dating her for a while you can’t fool yourself that you know every skeleton in her closet! Understand you are attracted to her for her looks, but is that really enough for you? I know I want both an attractive woman and someone who has a personality I am attracted to. I don’t know if I am attracted to her personality for quite some time. The problem is most guys find out the minimum about her and any faults are not immediately obvious. They then just assume her personality is up to their standards. Don’t assume... " Of course I don't mean the article's advice will really help. Saying "dont put the woman up on the pedestal" isn't advice. However, what usually helps is realizing why and what is going wrong, and I think this article does a great job. The fact that this relates with you is because you're doing fine with talking to guys because you're being yourself. You're not overly smiling, or doing other various things. You also know that you don't care if this guy just walks away, and thats exactly how it should be with beautiful women. However getting to that mindset is a whole other ballgame. :] hope this helped.

Author:	Incubus69 [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:03 am ]
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Hey man I really enjoyed it! I figured out some things which next time when I go back then it will help! Great post!

Author:	Incubus69 [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:12 am ]
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Maybe another technique would be this which I'm gonna try out by looking at some goregous models and hot babes. While looking at these pictures I'm gonna pick out ever bit of imperfection that I can - the reason of doing this is to kinda turn off my WANT and DESIRE for them. I noticed that I'm not attracted to fat chiks but fat chicks are attracted to me - why because I'm not attracted to them THe only thing I'm concerned about is once I get to know them - I won't be able to feel attracted or feel love for them. Whch can cause a bad effect.

Author:	kasabi [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:08 am ]
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I wrote about this before. nickkkk has a point . . . but to correct this point is often difficult to do by yourself. This is an "emotional" issue. It's difficult to find what you can't see or touch and even more difficult to correct it. So I'm a big fan of identifying and correcting physical and tangible issues. These things are easy to identify and easy to correct with a bit of "homework". With all this talk about "Natural Game", I think too many people are going out and just trying to wing everything. Well even the most talented improv comedians write their asses off and practice every scenario to nail every situation. Being prepared like this is what give them their confidence. Being prepared is what gives athletes confidence for that big game. Hey, how happy will you be if some coach of a college football team just picked you up on a Sat. morning and told you to QB his team for that big game? . . . Won't work. So there's nothing wrong with preparing. Instead of actually SPEAKING to them, just sit down at the mall with a pad and paper one time. See one girl and just write up a story. How would you open her? How would you routine her? How do you think she would respond? How would you close her? Do this a few times and I promise you, you'll feel not only more confident about approaching girls but you'll also project a more relaxed attitude that will have girls' drop their guards much quicker than just going through whatever is in your head. Eventually, when you have a bunch of those under your belt, you'll just pop them off one after another. With those notes . . . you should also keep in mind of a bunch of things that are simply boring. Age talk + cigarettes are boring and dead ends. Instead, think more to the tune of: Holiday vacations, fun holiday parties, the craziest thing you've seen at a Christmas partiwa, your niece's first date, ski trips, Holiday cocktails, bars that have holiday parties, etc . . . Obviously these are more "fun" topics. You want to hear her say things like, "Oh yeah, that sounds awesome!", "That's craaazy!", "Oh my God . . . that sounds like a total nightmare!" . . .so now you have her going . . . that's when you strike the close. You go, "Yeah it was crazy. . . You'd love it! We should definitely check out that bar. I'll call you." Done. Sometimes, no matter how "on" you are, you'll see girls just lose focus. Low blood sugar level or ADD or short term memory loss and you just drop the topic and start with, "Oh my God!" . . "Oh, I just remembered!" "Holy crap!" And just start all over again. If she zones out again, tell her, "nice meeting you, " and move on.

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