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Author:  FNB [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:18 pm ]
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I was yesterday on a great date with this SHB9-SHB10 model quality hottie that turrned bad. She was continously sending me lots of IoIs. Not so many shit tests nor IoDs but a majority of IoIs. I would even say that she sent me most of them. Is a girl only sending IoIs if she is attracted?

The problem comes when I tried to kiss her. This is one of my greatest sticking points. :( So she freazes up and start the LJBF talk about how she has ended her relationship with this guy (a very short time after she met me!) and that she isn't ready for a new relationship. I would say BS! This as Ross Jeffries has said that if she likes you she will be ready for a relationship. I felt like I was a wussy nice guy or something from that second... After that nothing really worked. So I don't understand what went wrong. I think that I had not built enough comfort with her or something. So how do I know when to kiss a girl and that this doesn't happen again? Any advice on how I would change this is much appreciated. :)
Author:  V1V [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:41 pm ]
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You need to establish the difference between a friendly IOI and a more than friendly IOI. My mum gives her friends IOIs everytime she sees them. Doesnt mean that she is attracted to them. Look for more physical IOIs and slip in some compliancy tests to see where it is you are.
Author:  CAvemanChris [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:08 pm ]
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Some Gurus will tell you that IOI's don't mean shit and I kind of agree with that statement to a certain degree. Although I think IOI's are useful, they are not the icing on the cake. Not building ENOUGH attraction or ENOUGH comfort may be the problem. One thing that I will say, is that there is very little on this board that can help you regarding what you did wrong in a specific interaction in-field. For one, we weren't there so many important elements regarding tonality and sub-communication cannot be evaluated. You might very well have come across as a "nice guy" but there is no way anyone on this board can evaluate this correctly without actually being there.
Author:  FNB [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:10 pm ]
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You need to establish the difference between a friendly IOI and a more than friendly IOI. My mum gives her friends IOIs everytime she sees them. Doesnt mean that she is attracted to them. Look for more physical IOIs and slip in some compliancy tests to see where it is you are.
What you just said was a little bit to much information for me right now. When I'm searching for IoIs I go with the IoIs listed by Mystery in his Venusian arts method. So she gave me the following IoIs:

The first time we met was because she was giving me AIs (IoI!), then on first date we talked as if time just had flew so no communication problems, she smiles, giggles and laughs at pretty much anything, she gives Kino, both build rapport and comfort, self grooming, hair touching, touching her lips, several times fallinging into eachothers eyes and could look at each other for minutes, she stands nearby, she exposed her neck several times, playful and tries to challenge, she's disagreeing but laughing, when watching a movie her legs crossed but the upper leg was always towards me, constantly trying to impress me so much that it feels like if she really had done a researched about what I like and read about it looking like a nerd, always like a intimate sexual tension was there, she follows me like a leader and always wanted to know what I like most and so on and on. She really had made her self extremely good looking. So she was a SHB10! Are these strong IoIs or not?

What is a complience test? I have heared about them but can't remember what they are?

I really must say that I have been an AFC but started the rAFC mood in january so this was my first date ever. So I must say it went pretty well. Should I had kissed her when she tuched her lips or when we for a minute or so was in trance looking into each others eyes?
Author:  FNB [ Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:26 am ]
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I have now analyzed the situation and it seems that I need to work on Kino escalation and complience tests more. This as what Mystery says in this video sounds so familiar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_vIjxto ... F&index=16

Thank you for all the help! :)
Author:  Patrick_Bateman [ Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:26 am ]
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I have now analyzed the situation and it seems that I need to work on Kino escalation and complience tests more. This as what Mystery says in this video sounds so familiar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_vIjxto ... F&index=16

Thank you for all the help! :)
Before I actually read this post I automatically knew what was going on. You got the attraction and the comfort going, but theres no fuckin kino! ;p

I mean imagine you are talking with a girl about math, then out of nowhere she plunges at you and starts making out with you. Theres no congruence there at all. I hope you see what I'm saying for future reference.

PS: one of the best ways to prevent stupid mistakes is before you do something drastic, imagine being in her shoes. If it seems weird, dont do it. Simple as that =)
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