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| Author: | spy4001 [ Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | semi-advanced questions |
So due to a year or two of PUA I can pick up girls often and have reasonable success (1000% better before I started reading PUA stuff). I have identified two sticking points to my game; (1) what I call break down (or you tell me) when I get a girl in the car, or bed before sex and they start asking "why do you like me?" "What about me do you like?" "will you call me if we have sex?" I call this the breakdown because their ego breaks down and they get super vulnerable and want affirmation that I like them. I'm not sure the best way to make them more comfortable. How do I let them know that: I don't want a girlfriend but I think they are attractive and I want her right now? (2) Some times my slickness is self defeating 7&8s call me a "player" or "you wouldn't call me" something. They get scared off. Do I try to lower myself? self depricate? (3) After sex, how do I act to keep the attraction up? This is the part I screw up the most. How do I go from pick up a girl and screwing her that night, (post sex) and turn her into a regular booty call? It seems like either I keep my distance to much and she falls out with me and thinks I'm a player or the "screw and never call again guy." I keep very busy with work, projects, charity and writing, I don't want a girl friend. How do I frame my self as a lover? spy Thanks in advance |
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| Author: | Henniganni1589 [ Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Shit |
Man that is a really tough question. Well first off I would think that selection of the girl is very important first off when it comes to this matter. For instance you wouldn't want to go for the catholic school girl who your going to sleep with and then she will become obsessed with you and call your phone nonstop. Usually if I am just looking for a booty call I go for I wouldn't say less attractive women but definitely 7's or 8's. Anyways after you get done doing what your doing be straight up with her and tell her what you want out of your lovelife. Hope it was helpful in some way. |
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| Author: | Eminem [ Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:45 am ] |
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ok this is my answer. as a pua, but not as a pua resource if you know what i mean. me as a person. i would be honest but sugar coat it. A rule of mine is to not intentionally or knowingly hurt a person. I might downplay the significance of what is happening but if it seems like she really puts alot of emphasis on sex in her life I don't want to be another bad experience that changes her course in dating/relationships/trust in general. I put my values before anything. before the law, before myself, and of course before my pickup artistry thats being honorable as a person |
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| Author: | Jewness [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:36 pm ] |
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1. Sounds like buyers remorse. This is what happens when you do not spend enough time in comfort stages or your comfort building was not as succesful as might think. When you go from attraction straight to suduction, you skip comfort (which is greatly important). Comfort would reduce these feelings she is having. Girls do not want to feel like a slut or whore, so by not building up enough comfort she questions going further with someone they just met or someone they do not even know that well. This has to do with #2 as well. 2. Slickness is all fun and flirtacious, but at some point a girl wants to have a real converstation and connect with someone. This happens as I said during the comfort stages. You need to isolate your target and have a real conversation. Find out about each other. She wants to know that your not just a player, but are actually genuwinely interested in who she is as a person and not just interest in her looks. 3. I believe this has to do with a statement of intent. What are you after? If you are not looking for a LTR and are just looking to have fun, you need to make this known at the beginning. I dont mean say "I am just looking to casually have sex with you and have no interest in pursuing anything long term," LOL, I mean while gaming her you need to get across you are not looking for something serious. Easy way I do it is say something to the effect of "Yeah. Im just enjoying life now and not taking things to seriously. I do not want to be held down right now when their is so much out there to experience." You are not saying I do not want a GF and just want to have sex, but she should infer you are not there to find a GF. It is now her choice whether she is ok with this or not. |
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| Author: | danielglo [ Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:30 am ] |
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1. did you skip qualification by any chance? because you should of made her find things about herself that you were interested in apart from the physicalities... oh and the "call me after sex" I think would be (early) LMR so beat her to it and question her first.. 2. Reframe "player" to "lover of women" don't dlv, that's the afc thing to do.. she's shit testing you, ignore her change subject or turn it on her... 3. normally I would say amp attraction with cocky and funny... but it comes across to me your maybe playing too cool so you could be spending too much time in the attraction stage and not enough in comfort. so in summary try to communicate clearly you are qualifying her, spend more time in comfort and pre-empt LMR very early on... My personally favourite way of building comfort is to regress to childhood, this builds attraction as well, I've read... Freud used to regress his patients and many fell in love with him. furthermore I usually pre-empt LMR throughout the conversation (early in attraction using C&F and later in comfort more subtly with another FTC and a personal DHV) |
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