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| Author: | danielglo [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | high school game vs. outside game |
I really can't break out of my normal school attitude, see outside with people who don't know me i find it easy to come across confident, cocky and alpha but as soon as i get to college (UK) i become quieter, freeze and beta again... anyone find it harder to get into the mindset around those who already knew you? |
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| Author: | Mr. Fickle [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:18 am ] |
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i doo i doo. the solution is there is no solution. you cant go approach random girls in your highschool or you will be known as the creep that talks to random girls. you just gotta make as many goddamn friends as fucking possible im talking about guys/girls whatever you gotta work your fuckin ass off and make friends. burn no bridges. go to parties approach girls in your highschool there even if you dont drink you gotta get your name out there. a good way to do this is to become sincerely interested in other people ask them about their lives and then follow up. if they say they are going on vacation ask where? and then write it down and then next time you see them ask how their vacation was. blah blah blah just gotta make some fuckin friends and then you will start meeting girls as a side note. im a senior now and ive finally gotten my social proof to the point where i walk up to a group they already know who i am and they all say hi so it takes time for me 1 year. |
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| Author: | danielglo [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:00 am ] |
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that wasn't the question, the question was how do you break out of old habits around people who are used to acting and perceiving you differently then you are now... I'm in a group of like the three biggest amogs in my college so I'm finding it hard to be as/more alpha.. in classes away from them I'm easily the alpha but around them I switch back to being quiet and submissive... was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to change my behaviour around them to act as I do around other people... or is being beta in such a alpha group alright? |
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| Author: | Johnny Providence [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:02 pm ] |
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I'm actually in the same boat...of my three friends who I pick up girls with one has an unlimited bank roll(limos, personal drivers, 3 cars, VIP access, helicopters, you name it), the other is on the national soccer team and is in his own world of confidence, and the other is just redic good looking. It's very hard for me because I'm your average guy, and all of these guys have such confidence it is seemingly impossible to beat them, until I decided to COMPETE with them and it has helped my game dramatically. I have made tremendous progress by doing two things: Telling them in a serious conversation that you want to get better, and telling them you want to be more outgoing around them etc. The key here is complete authenticity. Then you literally try and compete with them for every girl. You can turn this in to the biggest developmental advantage you can have. If you can learn to compete with the most alpha guys despite their advantages you can compete with anyone. |
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| Author: | Johnny Providence [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:08 pm ] |
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And like the guy above said you can't come across as the weird guy who walks up to random girls and gives them all of your energy, unless you want to be that guy. The key is to bring them in to a conversation you are already having with your friends naturally. But the stars have to be aligned and the positioning has to be right. For example, if I'm actually having a conversation I'll lead the conversation in to their general proximity and then change the conversatio to something where you could ask for an opinion. Then wala, she's in, and then you talk to your friend for 2/3 of the time and her for 1/3. Then you gradually work her in and show interest. |
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| Author: | danielglo [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:01 pm ] |
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thanks man thats a fucking brilliant idea!!! I'm definitely going to do that... competing sounds good, these guys literally walk in and GET HIT ON by girls... its crazy... I'm gonna sit them down and just work it naturally into conversation (they don't know anything about PUA) and tell them I'm gonna compete with them for even the fugly's.. |
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| Author: | Eminem [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:28 pm ] |
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thats normal, dont sweat it. u can overcome it. but just be who u are/want to be whenever u can and then that will become ur natural self and those u have a framework for u you "should" be in their minds will have to demolish it and rebuild it cuz ur not gunna change for them but for now, just be yourself do what you want to do dont worry if ur not fully congruent from social group to social group, no one is, but it will get better dont overthink it, you are YOU, you are your natural self, you do what you want to do, if you've changed, its just your interests and behavior that have changed, u are the SAME person uv always been |
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| Author: | danielglo [ Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:50 am ] |
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yea my inner games seemed to of faltered a bit recently so I've been questioning myself a lot, probably cos I've been ill though seemed to of mostly recovered last night so I think I've overcame it =) without your input though it could of took me months to build it back up so thanks guys =D |
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