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Author:  avk [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  "Sometime next week" is this a rejection?
Hey guys
after a solid number close called up my target for a d2 and after a 5 minute conversation of attraction and a bit of comfort I told her to tag along for some indiano food.
she was like "I love it but I have to meet my friends " so I stacked forward with "cool so when will be a good time ? " and I got the punchline.

Sometime next week.

is this bad ? or should I try to d2 her again ?
Author:  thatbrady [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:31 pm ]
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Sounds kind of iffy, Id say its a no go personally. I wouldnt bring up the indian food again and just hit her up in a few days to bullshit around. If she liked the idea, she'll bring it up herself. I never like to seem like I give a fuck about their scheduals and act like its their loss if they can't fit into mine.
Author:  Psych_ [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:07 pm ]
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When you asked "when will be a good time?" you chased and came off needy. It's important to always keep that mentality that YOU are a 10. We all slip abd do small things like this though, myself included.

I'd call her up and tell her you realized your unfortunately going to be busy all this week and will have to cancel, sound sincerely disappointed though. Then begin to have a normal fun conversation with her on other topics without pushing for a meet. After a few more fun and chill phone calls try again with something different.

Hope this helps

Psych
Author:  Bonita [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:35 pm ]
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You guys bring up some good points but it could also be that he just put her on the spot and she just didn't know....so her response was "sometime next week." That can be said from a flake too but it is perfectly logical that she just didn't know when she could go. Just go off your instincts...did you feel that she was truly interested? send her a text a day or two later so you don't seem too anxious and suggest it again. Her response to that will give you more insight into whether or not it will actually happen or if she was just letting you down politely.
Author:  Psych_ [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:44 pm ]
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I agree with your thinking Bonita but not your solution. It's perfectly possible that she really just didn't know and kept it vauge because of that. However the thing to keep in mind is that it doesn't matter. Negative momentum is negative momentum whether she is interested or not. The only exception would be if she explained herself on why she didn't know or how she really does want to (investing).

By texting her later and suggesting it again he doesn't help make more comfort (which is what's needed and talking on the phone does more then text), begins chasing again which was the original problem, allows the break in rapport without breaking back which has him lose value, and can further even more negative momentum with the chance of another rejection.

Not trying to attack you at all though Bonita, I honestly see why you're saying what you're saying and like I said your reasoning is right.
Author:  Bonita [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:42 pm ]
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I agree with your thinking Bonita but not your solution. It's perfectly possible that she really just didn't know and kept it vauge because of that. However the thing to keep in mind is that it doesn't matter. Negative momentum is negative momentum whether she is interested or not. The only exception would be if she explained herself on why she didn't know or how she really does want to (investing).

By texting her later and suggesting it again he doesn't help make more comfort (which is what's needed and talking on the phone does more then text), begins chasing again which was the original problem, allows the break in rapport without breaking back which has him lose value, and can further even more negative momentum with the chance of another rejection.

Not trying to attack you at all though Bonita, I honestly see why you're saying what you're saying and like I said your reasoning is right.

Assuming that "chasing" was the initial problem, then yes...comfort needs to be established. Then again, if comfort wasn't established she isn't going to give him the time of day to make up for that...she will simply not respond to any message or phone call. Assuming some level of comfort and attraction was established, then I do see what you mean about how asking again could be viewed as chasing. Typically a girl that does offer a reason why she can't hang out or suggests another day is more into you and less likely to fake. I have however given guys the answer "sometime next week" and lived up to it. And sometimes I was into them and sometime not so much.

I think if he gets in contact with her (text or call is fine in my books) the sooner he can gauge whether there was any attraction. If she does not respond, then there was not and any future attempts would not only be futile but would completely turn her off towards him. So maybe if we combine both of our ideas it would help. Contacting her (i think phone or text is fine bc texting is more laid-back and less directive so if you dont want to appear to chase her texting is fine) and building some comfort rather than merely asking her out again. But the sooner you ask her to hang out the sooner you can guage the level of attraction.


Okay now Im just rambling...I hope that all makes sense! haha
Author:  avk [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:21 pm ]
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Hey guys

Thank you soo much for the reply , Bonita I love you and which women would have been more like you :)

but anyway I screwed this one by calling her at midnight so this thread is closed.

Although she was a nice girl my game is not skilled enough to get her or lets reframe and say it was just never ment to happen.

God bless you all
love love
avk
Author:  Rye Lee [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:38 pm ]
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Hey guys

Thank you soo much for the reply , Bonita I love you and which women would have been more like you :)

but anyway I screwed this one by calling her at midnight so this thread is closed.

Although she was a nice girl my game is not skilled enough to get her or lets reframe and say it was just never ment to happen.

God bless you all
love love
avk
Huh?! Why is it shot? The hell does the time you called her have to do with it aside from it being a late call.

Personally I'm a busy mother fucker and I'll typically tell anyone that wants to do something that it's gonna have to be next week. I think that someone telling me next week shows that they're just as busy as me and that's cool, cause I don't want to be their only source of entertainment.
Author:  Mr. Fickle [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:01 am ]
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im with rye, but i'd even take it a bit further. you raised your value, you called her whenever you wanted.

unlesss you said/did something stupid or incredibly pathetic i dont know why you'd give up.

and on the orignal question, keep in mind that she might just want an orbiter. i've noticed that girls are generally vague when they want oribiters (so they keep coming around again, get it?!?!). being an orbiter is the emotional equivalent of having a large dick shoved up your ass until it comes out your mouth.
Author:  avk [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:10 am ]
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This is why I screwed up

as we have talked on the same day of Pick up she told me how she never goes out much and doesnt know whats happening out much.

so yesterday after closing the first phone call and posting this message I txt her saying
avk:" BTW I dont know why I love it when your all clueless"

hb:" I still think you need to be a stand up comedian"
(thats what she negged me when I opened her the first time in set and told her that I live with my mom and never shower except once a week Disqualification)

then I replied to the text :" haha your making me laugh are you sure you dont have it in reverse"

no reply from her

ended up calling her @ midnight which is when I posted the message on this thread stating I screwed up game over
Author:  Eminem [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:33 pm ]
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can of worms lol


just tell her you want her to do this or that, but dont say it needy

if she says no, talk to her in a disinterested patronizing way for about 30 seconds then let her go

the more u call u sound bored like ur about done giving her chances.. like shes not worth ur time

i do that and it works for me with diffficult girls

this si what i call an upperclass stuffy white girl problem not to say only white girls but yeah...

they think they are little princesses

nah... they be lucky to get with u
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