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| Author: | Xenu [ Wed May 14, 2008 7:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Trouble hooking girls |
Recently i have tried to aproach woman in two weekends in a shopping mall. By using an indirect opener. The first weekend i asked whether i should shave my beard off or not (my beard is new and opinion from friends/family about it differs a lot). The second weekend i tried to just ask direction in the city i grew up in lol. Can't get much more indirect than that. However I noticed that once the question is asked the person(s) are about to go on their business (which usually is shopping) and i can't get them into a real conversation. Now i tried the second weekend to pretend to be about to go in the direction they pointed at. Then turn around and ask whether they know a good gift for mothers day. Unfortunately that didn't work either. They still seem to be disinterested and go on doing whatever they were doing. Anyone got an idea how i can improve this (besides sarging more)? Do i have to approach more static people (sitting on a bench), use time constraint more explicitly? Use a more interesting opener that gets them involved? On a side note, i also notice that after having approached a set i have this tendency to leave it and a nervousness to stay with it. On another side not, i also noticed that the few negs i threw in haven't really worked so far. On a last side not, i notice most people react friendly, some react smiling and only few (1-2) are unfriendly (sighing) |
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| Author: | JackOfNoTrades [ Wed May 14, 2008 1:19 pm ] |
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Sounds like you got to get your inner game sorted mate. She is lucky for you to be talking to her! After the opener whatever it may be you should transition. I tend to look at something that the girl or a girl (if in a group) is wearing and comment on it. Obviously PUA style. Another approach is to be playful with the way they answer. Using the old PUA cliché 'Did you know your nose wiggles when you laugh'. Or use a situational opener i.e. something that is happening around you. Another method could be to go into a lil DHV story? As for using negs they should really only be used on HB8,9,10's. Or so I 've heard along the grapevine Honestly, I go with what I feel comes naturally. Hope I helped! |
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| Author: | Chief [ Sun May 25, 2008 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trouble hooking girls |
Quote: On a side note, i also notice that after having approached a set i have this tendency to leave it and a nervousness to stay with it.
There's your problem right there. The girls can smell your fear. Let go of it.
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| Author: | mozyFresh [ Sun May 25, 2008 12:36 pm ] |
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The problem is your openers. The beard one is pretty much a yes or no question, and from my point of view would come of as abit weird (in the street), good idea though. Asking for directions is similar to asking someone for the time in a sense, its kind of hard to transition from (like 'whats your name' for example). Moving sets are always more difficult, if find a direct approach is usually better for this (actually with this is normally open single sets unless im walking with them) Try some other openers. |
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| Author: | BlakMagik [ Sun May 25, 2008 2:08 pm ] |
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Chief nailed it. i slightly disagree with Mozy.. before we learned game me and my current wing used to go out and attempt to pick-up in the city at night. we opened moving & static sets on the street just like u did by asking for directions we already knew. on several occasions we managed to continue a 5-10 minute conversation. basically it does the job.. to open the set. i think the trick to it is obviously radiating a lot of confidence [as Chief said] and secondly changing the topic early on [getting their opinion on something from there is one possible option - we usually just burst into an elaborate story about why we were headed there and asked them what they were up to and they usually introduced themselves and asked about us]. i think u should read up on Juggler Method i recommend it when it comes to running the un-canned game. the beard opener is fine just expect the worst and have somethin prepared to keep the conversation going. u could ask them a simple 'why?' when they say yes or no just neg their response. if the opener isnt going well just cut the thread and change the topic to ANYTHING.. u could stack with another opinion opener but its not necessary. i suggest a DHV story or routine. the point is you've engaged her in some conversation and u can go into some trusted material NEVER neglect false time-constraints and remember that negs are all about timing. dont force them as this will look incongruent and weak but wen the opportunity presents itself take full advantage and DONT do it to get a reaction out of her.. sometimes it actually has affected them they're just choosing not to show it. this shouldnt affect u or ur thought process. just examine the usual: her body language, response to kino and IOIs |
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| Author: | Xenu [ Sun May 25, 2008 5:49 pm ] |
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Thanks for the advice guys. I'll try to apply it when i get the chance. Am a bit busy with work and other stuff lately so I am somewhat less focused on PUA and replying to this topic right now. But keep the ideas coming, ill catch up again later when i can. |
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