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Author:  Grape [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Damn AFC Alpha
Okay so here's a field report from a concert I played at last night.

My bass player, a complete faggot I should add in, is a complete faggot.
He stalks me and analyzes everything I do when I game girls, but of course he doesn't know I'm a PUA, and he copies my methods.
Example, I start negging a girl about her hair and make up and he adds in GROSS! Which was the strongest part of the neg.
I had done this neg on several other girls and he had been watching my methods, he doesn't understand it but knows it works.

He's been doing this to so many other girls and in such a strong and intense frame, thinking it was the only thing you had to do, that I had less prizability than he did since he just threw in the negs really really hard.

Although I know what I'm supposed to do after negging, he doesn't.
But I can't really move on when he comes in and fucks with my game and girl start chasing after him.

For him, damned AFC, after the negging, the girls obviously start shit testing him and he gives in real easily, but often does a miracle.
They ask, "Are you desperate for me?"
He goes, "Maybe. Wink"
They reply: "I was really turned on by you."
He goes, "So was I."

and for some fucking reason some girls, they fall in love with the kid.
Probably since they have validation from a "prize".

But this kid had no fucking idea what he was doing until he started hanging out with me.
And now, he's ALWAYS stealing my targets, still trying to throw in the immature racist jokes.

I really need help with Counter-Amogging. Bad.
Any references to eBooks or audio courses on this would be of GREAT value.

Thanks guys.
Author:  Nick Stone [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:30 am ]
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It depends if you go out as friends you shouldn't verbally AMOG him.
Just walk in front of him and turn your back to him like hes not even there; keep doing it every 5 mins but dont make it noticable. Then if he says something about it; do a half turn to him (like you thought there was a bug on your shoulder but there really wasn't). Or just the AMOG back pat I use it all the time (pat him on the back and make sure he moves when you do it).
That's what I do and it seems to work.
Author:  nanoelite007 [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:13 pm ]
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pull away from him.. dont hang out with him... when he askes why, say "you bug>" dont give him reasons.. let him earn your respect back... FUCKEN GAME HIM!!! haha!! not in a homosexual way..
Author:  sL!CK [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:18 pm ]
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There are more subtle ways to AMOG this guy.

When you're in a set, don't turn your back to him. That's too obvious and he gets ec with the target too. As you're talking to her position her inbetween you guys so she turns her back to him. I just read this on the forum a couple of days ago and I'd love to give credit to the original poster but can't remember who it was.

Another good thing to do is go around opening sets and asking HB's to go up to him and talk to him. He's a really nice guy and sometimes just desperate for attention. He can get pretty loud and rude if people are not paying attention to him.
Author:  Grape [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:44 pm ]
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Another good thing to do is go around opening sets and asking HB's to go up to him and talk to him. He's a really nice guy and sometimes just desperate for attention. He can get pretty loud and rude if people are not paying attention to him.
That was actually a good cold read.
He always pops up behind my back but yeah it's genius to have the girl's back turned on him.
Thanks guys!
Author:  Fra Diavlo [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:22 am ]
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There are more subtle ways to AMOG this guy.

When you're in a set, don't turn your back to him. That's too obvious and he gets ec with the target too. As you're talking to her position her inbetween you guys so she turns her back to him. I just read this on the forum a couple of days ago and I'd love to give credit to the original poster but can't remember who it was.

Another good thing to do is go around opening sets and asking HB's to go up to him and talk to him. He's a really nice guy and sometimes just desperate for attention. He can get pretty loud and rude if people are not paying attention to him.
HAHAHAHA that was me!!!! Man how weird is that. Yeah obviously I agree with that strategy. It's fucking golden. What you've got to do is slowly get her to lose focus on him. Get her in between you and the AMOG and then move mid-sentence (very important) subtly so that she has to follow you. You only really need to move enough to get him in an awkward position. No one likes to be approached from behind. Eventually he gets blown out but doesn't understand why. It's so money.
Author:  sL!CK [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:19 pm ]
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There are more subtle ways to AMOG this guy.

When you're in a set, don't turn your back to him. That's too obvious and he gets ec with the target too. As you're talking to her position her inbetween you guys so she turns her back to him. I just read this on the forum a couple of days ago and I'd love to give credit to the original poster but can't remember who it was.

Another good thing to do is go around opening sets and asking HB's to go up to him and talk to him. He's a really nice guy and sometimes just desperate for attention. He can get pretty loud and rude if people are not paying attention to him.
HAHAHAHA that was me!!!! Man how weird is that. Yeah obviously I agree with that strategy. It's fucking golden. What you've got to do is slowly get her to lose focus on him. Get her in between you and the AMOG and then move mid-sentence (very important) subtly so that she has to follow you. You only really need to move enough to get him in an awkward position. No one likes to be approached from behind. Eventually he gets blown out but doesn't understand why. It's so money.
I knew you'd find me. Stalker!
I must say, it's one of the best and most original things I've read on the forum, and now I'll remember who was the person behind the idea. THanks again.

What this reminded me also of, is locking in. Like you said, nobody likes to be approached from the back, and it's not really a good idea to do that either. So locking in, or having your back turned to the wall, or a bar will have your target facing you, and turning her back to everyone else.
If the target is not next to a place like that and in the middle of the room, move her to a corner, or somewhere to the side, take up a relaxed body position, lean on something and make sure she's facing you and has her back to the room.

Now if I could only remember this stuff while in the field...
Author:  Grape [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:17 pm ]
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There are more subtle ways to AMOG this guy.

When you're in a set, don't turn your back to him. That's too obvious and he gets ec with the target too. As you're talking to her position her inbetween you guys so she turns her back to him. I just read this on the forum a couple of days ago and I'd love to give credit to the original poster but can't remember who it was.

Another good thing to do is go around opening sets and asking HB's to go up to him and talk to him. He's a really nice guy and sometimes just desperate for attention. He can get pretty loud and rude if people are not paying attention to him.
HAHAHAHA that was me!!!! Man how weird is that. Yeah obviously I agree with that strategy. It's fucking golden. What you've got to do is slowly get her to lose focus on him. Get her in between you and the AMOG and then move mid-sentence (very important) subtly so that she has to follow you. You only really need to move enough to get him in an awkward position. No one likes to be approached from behind. Eventually he gets blown out but doesn't understand why. It's so money.
I knew you'd find me. Stalker!
I must say, it's one of the best and most original things I've read on the forum, and now I'll remember who was the person behind the idea. THanks again.

What this reminded me also of, is locking in. Like you said, nobody likes to be approached from the back, and it's not really a good idea to do that either. So locking in, or having your back turned to the wall, or a bar will have your target facing you, and turning her back to everyone else.
If the target is not next to a place like that and in the middle of the room, move her to a corner, or somewhere to the side, take up a relaxed body position, lean on something and make sure she's facing you and has her back to the room.

Now if I could only remember this stuff while in the field...
It's pretty much freezing him out in a genius way.

Also, I also wish I had everything memorized in the field. :P
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