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Author:  Spanish_Fly01 [ Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:46 am ]
Post subject:  Giving HBs too much value too easily without realizing it
Hi,
Haven't posted for a while but thought I'd share something about my game lately. Apart from having no approach anxiety I find that I don't always screen with HBs which can screw things up pretty quickly. For instance, it can mean "buying in" too fast (Julien's buying a TV analogy) and giving them too much value-- head first-- without letting them qualify themselves for themselves etc. And it can also mean talking about myself at times when I could be focusing on them more for a stronger frame. And the obvious point, it can save wasted time!! Tonight I realized my fingers were pumped with adrenaline as I entered a girl's number into my phone, further complicated when I saw a girl's message on the screen of my phone ha! Not sure if the target saw it but I always manage to hide what I'm feeling anyhow.
I live in a small town and these sticking points can make a big difference when compared to the city a few hours away. Here, most locals know each other unless you're a university student, which can also mean they know you from someone else etc. "Knowing this" alone often affects my ability to calibrate, so I have decided to move closer to the big city which is half way to work (at present) and where I'd prefer to sarge. This is what I'm prepared to do for the game. Feedback and any comments welcome.

Cheers.
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving HBs too much value too easily without realizing i
Try to make a connection with the girl rather than gaming her.
Author:  Spanish_Fly01 [ Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving HBs too much value too easily without realizing i
Thanks bro, however I easily forget when she's a VHB! Have to learn to adjust my energy and not be too outcome dependent ay?
Author:  Spanish_Fly01 [ Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving HBs too much value too easily without realizing i
Now that I think of it, my 'connection' sticking point has been raised before. I do attempt to connect but what does it actually mean if I am trying to relate, create rapport, 'hook' etc.? Examples?
On the other extreme, with 7-8's I seem less interested and probably don't care enough? Very interesting..
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving HBs too much value too easily without realizing i
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Thanks bro, however I easily forget when she's a VHB!
A very good mindset to have when dealing with a super hot girl is that "I am already enough." Thus moving with this kind of mindset makes the action fall right into place.
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Now that I think of it, my 'connection' sticking point has been raised before. I do attempt to connect but what does it actually mean if I am trying to relate, create rapport, 'hook' etc.? Examples?
The best way to do this is to be in the now with her. When you are totally free of getting somewhere or getting something this is when you can be in the moment with her. By this I mean totally listening and accepting her for who she is. When you do this, with the intent of eventually sleeping with her, I have noticed that my questions and what I think to do next just come naturally. A practical example:

I am at the bar with this hot girl. I think about how hot she is, if she will like me, what I need to say next, whos place we will go back to, and with all this thinking I am not in the moment with this girl. I am lost in my thinking in either the future or the past. Instead, I stop and look into the girl's eyes while listening intently on whatever she is saying. Actually being interested in the process of getting to know this girl rather than the end result, I come from a place of asking questions I am actually interested in rather than ones that will "lead" this where I want to go. She talks about her job and I might just think to ask her what led her to that, if I in fact care.

I had one girl last week who I had no idea how I would close since she I was out of town and she lived far away. I had just glimpsed her jeep outside the bar we were at and the thought just came to me when I wasn't thinking that we should go four-wheeling in her jeep.

There is a bunch of examples especially in NLP - Breathing at the same rate, matching, pacing, etc. These work great, but are only window dressings if you can't be in the moment with her. In addition these all occur naturally if you can be present with the girl.
Author:  Spanish_Fly01 [ Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving HBs too much value too easily without realizing i
I hear what you're saying, awesome. Reading "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle so I get it. Today I number closed with a HB working in a mens wear retail shop. I actually listened this time and went with the flow rather than trying to 'game her' so to speak. She recently ended a four year relationship so I think I did well considering.. We got into this conversation about 'NOW,' and so I texted her shortly afterwards with "U wont regret reading that book :) " I will play it cool since she is "not looking for a relationship" at the moment, though neither am I lol. Must conquer masters' problems NOW.
Cheers.
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving HBs too much value too easily without realizing i
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I hear what you're saying, awesome. Reading "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle so I get it. Today I number closed with a HB working in a mens wear retail shop. I actually listened this time and went with the flow rather than trying to 'game her' so to speak. She recently ended a four year relationship so I think I did well considering.. We got into this conversation about 'NOW,' and so I texted her shortly afterwards with "U wont regret reading that book :) " I will play it cool since she is "not looking for a relationship" at the moment, though neither am I lol. Must conquer masters' problems NOW.
Cheers.
This is great news, but why is she in a men's wear retail shop?
Author:  Spanish_Fly01 [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving HBs too much value too easily without realizing i
I was sarging in a shopping complex, she works in 'Tarocash' to be precise. Not the best place for day game but it helped to demonstrate what happens when I do something about my sticking points (during a scorching hot day shopping malls are the best place to be as well!!). Another thing worth mentioning is the 'permission boy' mindset. I fall into that with VHBs alot. Must stop doing it.
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving HBs too much value too easily without realizing i
Oh haha I thought you said she was shopping in a men's store, that would be the red flag. No one games girls while they are shopping. Abundant opportunity.
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