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| Author: | PopPunkDude [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sudden Holts |
Hey guys, new to the board and this is my first post. I'm not new to the game at all, but nowhere near where I want to be so occasionally still have issues. Approaching, getting a number, getting a date isn't a problem for me at all. But i've recently - like this has litterally happened with my last 3 chicks - run into a bit of an issue that I need to get fixed ASAP. OK so chick one, we texted for two weeks and went on a date (time constraints meant it had to be that long by the way) We had an awesome time on the date, I got a kiss goodnight easy enough and that was it. I texted the next day - No reply - I left it 4 days and texted again. Nothing. Fair enough, maybe she didnt feel me and kissed me out of politeness. I moved on. Chick 2 - Met her on POF, got the number, we texted for a week and webt out exactly a week after scoring the digits. We had fun, constant laughing, kino was used, and we kissed multiple times throughout the date. She texted me before i'd even made it home and we texted for a further 3 days when we agreed to meet again. She texted me that morning, All fine. But I didnt get a reply to my text sent back and got no text about firming up the date. Now she was at a funeral on this day so I thought if she didnt wanna hook up that would be fine. I texted the day after just seeing if she was ok and hoping everything went well. Nothing. I left it a week and sent another message, just a simple "Hey, havent heard from you since the funeral, hope you're ok, you know where i am xx" Nothing. I moved on. Chick 3 - We texted again for a week or so and went on a date. We had a ridiculous connection and it went well, probably in my top 5 dates i've been on. Again, getting a goodnight kiss happened with these and we arranged a second date. The second date also went well and we ended up kissing throughout the date. We went home and she texted almost immedietely after leaving me. We texted a little the morning after again and even firmed up a third date. Its been 3 days and nothing from her even though she has shown as active multiple times on messenger so its pretty clear I am being dogged of. Again. I'm really scratching my head here guys, I'm getting dates, my text game is solid, but eventually it fizzles out to me just getting ignored. The dates are never disasterous, they've all been fun and I've scored kisses on every one. I dont know why its recently started happening but it needs nipping in the bud before my next one. Any ideas guys? |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sudden Holts |
Your testosterone gets transferred to the girl via kissing. Testosterone, if it's high enough, makes girls horny. A horny girl who has the hots for you doesn't flake on your dates. At one point in my life, I got lazy working out and lost drive in my career. This lead to a lot of flakes and LMRs even when I made out with several girls. Well, not anymore when I worked out on the regular again and got really competitive in school and at work. Work out. Fix your diet. Stay away from estrogen-laden processed food. (If you have man boobs like Fudge88 then your estrogen is high while your testosterone is low). Fast at least once a week (ask Eddie Fews about this). And stay competitive. When your natural testosterone is back to normal levels, then those kiss closes will naturally end up in f-closes. |
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| Author: | PopPunkDude [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sudden Holts |
Thanks for the reply. So bassically it's nothing to do with my game but more my body chemicals? My drive at work hasn't dipped at all and I'm still a big hitter in the office, but I have stopped working out. The exercise I get these days is walking to and from work. What I'm thinking though is the sudden flakes. Its all going good, then suddenly out of nowhere - It just falls on its face. I dont even get sort of disinterested texts, or one words, its going brilliantly, We're both engaged in the texts then auddenly - BAM. The way I would compare it to is when you hear a horrible story about someone and it just changes your perception of them instantly. Ive had flakes before, but its been after a date and not heard off them. Not continuing the conversation and then suddenly nothing. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sudden Holts |
Check this out: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=190620 Any reason you aren't going for the full close on any of these dates? It sounds like your settling for the hollywood romance story and then getting clingy afterward. |
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| Author: | PopPunkDude [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sudden Holts |
Hey man thanks for the reply. I am looking for a girlfriend, not just sex, hence the reason I arent going for the f-close straight away, but I arent being clingy afterwards at all. I've been in the game long enough to know thats a deal breaker. I actually, in my head, asked myself that question am I coming off as clingy without knowing it? But went through the messages again and thats certainly not the case. Thats why this whole situation is stumping me. I've pretty much experienced every obstacle the game has to throw at us, but this is something new for me and its something thats only happened recently since I shifted from casual dating to looking for a relationship. Previous to that I could bang a chick as easily as I could kiss one. Just hoping I can get a definitive answer. Its certainly something i'm doing wrong somewhere down the line, but like I've said previously its a sudden holt when things are going great. I need to know whats activating these emergency breaks. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sudden Holts |
I think you just answered your own question. Ever since you've switched from looking to get laid to looking for a girlfriend you're successful date level isn't the same. This isn't rocket science. One thing men have to understand is that no one wants anything that you're so readily trying to give away. Why do you want a relationship? And why are you in such a rush to give away your freedom? What is it that a relationship can provide you with that a normal friends with benefits relationship can not provide you with? A woman wants to feel like she's tied down one of the good ones. Like she got the guy that is out there hitting and quitting, and the he intentionally was going to do the same to her before recognizing something special in her and changing his mind. You're going in to give yourself away for free. I wouldn't call you back either. I could easily dial you up whenever I felt like it and take the free thing after i've checked my other options. Looking for a relationship before extensive qualification is completely needy to me.I'm not sure what scope you're looking through. I need high levels of compliance from a woman before i consider her to be a candidate. What are you requiring in exchange for your freedom? Not to mention women today are giving the milk away for free. And you're the guy trying to buy the cow; wondering why everyone is looking at you weirdly. |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sudden Holts |
Not going for the f-close means you're NOT horny enough which means you have low testosterone. And why the fuck do you want a relationship with a girl that you don't want to fuck? |
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| Author: | PopPunkDude [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sudden Holts |
Believe me I want to fuck, just not a slut who puts out away |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sudden Holts |
Eddie explained it already rather well. If you're not getting big emotional investment and compliance from the girl, she isn't likely to be your girlfriend. If you escalated towards the f-close right after the kiss close, then you can easily choose from many so you can have your ideal girlfriend. You don't necessarily have to seal the deal on the first date. Girls just need to know that you've got enough balls to fuck them. The mindset that girls who give up pussy are sluts is just soooo wrong. How on earth were you born if your dad did not fuck your mom? |
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