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| Author: | rom9 [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Keep getting stuck on building comfort |
Hi Guys This has happened 3 times in a row now ! I meet girl, I make her laugh, I flirt a lot with her, chatting, sexual escalation (in chat), she gives IOIs and SOIs as well. I get her number ; in all last three cases she even proposes to go out and get a drink sometime. I get her out for a casual drink; I keep the vibe easy going (role play as husband and wife,divorce etc.) But I cant even kiss close. I am bad at the meeting in person and escalating I think. I tease her a lot (sometimes I think too much), but I am not sure what else to add on. The comfort building (where u ask her insightful question)s to get her to open up seems too much like an interview. I did that still at the last girl I went out with for a drink. Got to know what she wanted to go long term and her perfect place to be and so on. I did qualify her as well. All said, I was not able to, either create comfort or create sexual vibe with conversation. I know body language is crucial but I am stuck for topics to speak of especially before making a kiss close or getting her to be very open and comfortable around me. Should I be giving more compliments (I hold back on them really unless she really deserves them). I also give SOIs (especially in role play). Like the last girl, I made her agree I gave her fantastic orgasms (as a married couple). Its a bit confusing what I am doing wrong. It really is a sticking point as girl after girl (especially when the girls where the ones chasing me in the first place), I manage to fuck up. I am getting frustrated as to what I am doing wrong. I would really love some feedback here. |
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| Author: | CharlesFinley [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keep getting stuck on building comfort |
So you're doing the same thing every time and you can't kiss-close every time? Why are you role playing? I don't understand. Your interactions seem 'theory based' and scripted, to me... Try going off script, and be yourself a bit... Clearly the scripted stuff isn't working for you. |
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| Author: | rom9 [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keep getting stuck on building comfort |
Thanks CharlesFinley I don't do same routines every time. My routines and teasing changes according to the girl. I have been told by my friends (who are girls) that I have a natural knack to tease and flirt. I hence have no problems getting to ask a girl to go out for a drink. The role playing was to ease in the sexual talk. So I can make sure she doesn't friend zone me as I can easily keep the topic sexual. The problem is the conversation when building comfort. I know getting physical is important but u cannot do that unless you have a solid conversation going on. Otherwise the girl becomes conscious that you are touching her and that's bad, isn't it ? That is where I am at loss, i cant figure out quickly enough how I can get her to be comfortable enough that she doesn't mind me touching her at all. I have seen Brazlian guys do that so quickly; I wonder what exactly are they saying to those girls that they not only giggle but allow them to escalate physically. They get the girl comfortable so fast ! I am told repeatedly to KINO but I do not get that. How can I be touching a girl if I am not keeping her busy emotionally in a conversation. Making that deep connection ! I try to be myself as much as possible in the latter stages and not use any scripted stuff. I agree I am a bit shy at physical advances but that is because I have no clue how to keep her emotionally open to me so I can move fast. Quote: So you're doing the same thing every time and you can't kiss-close every time?
Why are you role playing? I don't understand. Your interactions seem 'theory based' and scripted, to me... Try going off script, and be yourself a bit... Clearly the scripted stuff isn't working for you. |
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| Author: | Tr@veler [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keep getting stuck on building comfort |
How about you have a real laugh on your next date and just do whatever the fuck you want? If that means you wanna kiss her, then go for it, and even if she turns away, keep on making yourself laugh. Jeez, it's all about how you react after, not the action itself. You can try "kiss tactics" or "gambits" which used to help me back in the day and I SOMETIMES use nowadays... Something like - get to the subject of kissing. Ask "Are you a good kisser?" She gives you an answer. You say, let's find out. Go for it. If she turns away, fucking LAUGH. haha! you went for it. Another one - "I have to ask you something right now." "What?" "But you have to be honest with me." "Yeah." "How would you feel if I kissed you right now?" Answer 1) "Good" - Kiss. Answer 2) "I don't know" - Kiss. Answer 3) "No," or "Bad," or anything negative - "Well I didn't say I would!" Another one - Make yourself laugh, talk about something funny. Pause. "Damn, I have to be honest, I can't stop thinking about kissing you right now" - make the choice, either go for it then, wait for her response, or move onto the next topic. Boom, introduced the subject of kissing, added tension, and then you can go for it later. Another one - At the beginning of the date say "Remind me I have to give you something later on." Her "OK." Proceed with your date or whatever you two are doing. When a quieter, more intimate moment arises say, "OK, I'm gonna give you what I was talking about before. Close your eyes and stick out your hand." She complies. If she challenges you, just fucking order her to do it. Assure her it's nothing bad. She closes her eyes, sticks out her hand. Grab her hand and kiss her on the lips. If she likes it she will smile, or kiss you back, or both. If she doesn't, fucking laugh! You went for it! Go again later! |
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