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 Post subject: Erectile dysfunction
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Also called “impotence,” erectile dysfunction (ED) is a condition in which a man is unable to achieve or sustain an erection during sexual performance. Symptoms may also include reduced sexual desire or libido.

I am in very good physical health. I cycle everyday and do martial arts two times a week. I try to have a balanced diet and buy organic. I don't drink very much and I don't smoke, although I used to smoke weed. Nowadays I will take just a couple of hits when someone offers it to me but that's very rare, like once every 3 months or so. I haven't smoked weed regularly in two and a half years. I do not have any problems with nighttime erections.

These facts have led me to believe that the problem is all in my head. It must be related to depression and/or anxiety. I don't know if I am depressed or not. I know I have been and I know that sometimes I do feel very sad but other times I feel very good! Especially when I am with a woman I am really attracted to and yet... I get ED. And I guess the more ED I experience the more anxiety I feel when a new opportunity for sex presents itself. Read the quote again:

Also called “impotence,” erectile dysfunction (ED) is a condition in which a man is unable to achieve or sustain an erection during sexual performance. Symptoms may also include reduced sexual desire or libido.

I experience the symptons of reduced sexual desire or libido as well, but I am wondering if they really are "symptons" and not causes. In other words, do I experience reduced desire/libido because of ED or do I have ED because of reduced desire/libido? But I guess these symptons or causes or whatever go hand-in-hand with anxiety/depression, so it's all part of a vicious cycle. ED -> anxiety/depression/reduced desire -> ED -> anxiety/depression/reduced desire and so on.

It's not like I have NO desire. I am only going for HB7s and up. I want to have great sex, I want to make them orgasm... I enjoy every part of getting physical with them. But maybe not enough? The animal in me will not come out. A strong possibility is that it cannot until I am very comfortable with the other person. Otherwise I just cannot be in the moment enough. But I do not feel like I can just pass up sex to try and get more comfortable with someone. It just won't work in 99% of cases. Why do I need this comfort anyway? Could I be lacking in testosterone? If that is so, how can I build this up? I was also thinking of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT). Anyone have experience with this?

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Some history:

I used to be really shy and awkward, and I guess depressed as well. Because of this I didn't have sex until I was 22 years old (with my then-girlfriend). I had no sexual problems at all. Even so, like all my previous relationships, this one didn't last more than two months before she broke up with me. I did the whole self-pity thing because that's how I was back then.

A year or two later I was having a fling with another girl and after passing up a few opportunities I decided to infiltrate her woman hole. This was the first time I experience ED. We were unable to have sex and that really frustrated me.

Four or five years passed before I had an opportunity for sex again (I might have passed a couple opportunities up myself). The same thing happened again. No sex. At this point I was really frustrated as you can imagine. I was scared of failing again and that was part of the reason I passed up various other opportunities until I got a girlfriend about 4 years later.

By this time I was 30. The first time we had sex it was amazing! I was really good in bed. She told me I made her cum several times. As you can imagine I was very, very happy! I thought I had overcome my "curse" and indeed I never really had any sexual problems during our two-year relationship. She eventually cheated on me. I won't go into details but the way it happened and the circumstances around it was very tragic. Other unfortunate things happened at the same time, mostly logistical problems related to our breakup. I got very depressed and knew I had to make some changes in myself. This is what led me to pickup artistry.

I am 32 now and have been working on my game for about 6 months. If anyone had told me that one day I would be where I am now I would have told them to shut the fuck up for being a liar. I have got tons of phone numbers, lost track of how many dates I have been on and already had sex with four different girls in this time period. And yet sex is still a sticking point for me.

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I had pretty good sex a couple of times with a girl back in January until I experienced ED one morning (no problems fucking her the previous night). Didn't see her again, not sure how much that had to do with the ED. In April I had really, really good sex with another girl. No ED!!! But didn't see her again because she was a bit bonkers. In June I got ahold of the hottest girl yet, we were both crazy about each other but the sex ended up being shit. She gave me a nice blow job and then I fucked her for about 5 minutes, then... ED. Didn't see her again and pretty sure it was because of ED. I liked her a lot too so I was really sad about it for a couple of weeks.

Now it's July and I just got back from vacation. Met an HB8 and spent a couple days with her. Sex on our first night... but too much ED again. As we were making out I wasn't getting too hard and as she started giving me a blow job I went completely limp. She did manage to get me aroused again. I got really hard and she gave me the best blow job I've experienced. I had to hold back from cumming in her mouth because I still wanted to go in her pussy. So I did but after about 5 minutes I started going limp again. Tried to get in the mood again the next morning but could not get hard. It was very frustrating for me and I imaged for her too. I was happy that she didn't abandon me or change her nice attitude after that. We spent a lot more time together, made out, and I started getting more confident but in the end I couldn't get her in bed again due to logistics. So on our last day together I tried to initiate something in the park. She was all for it but I was not comfortable and could not get hard (note that I had public sex many times with my ex).

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So here I am sitting with a few potential phone numbers and unsure about what will happen next. There has been too much ED in my life but I am not planning on becoming celibate. I will use my opportunities and if I have to keep being embarassed and frustrated so be it. But I think the more this happens to me the more anxiety I have when it's time for sex. More anxiety -> more ED -> more anxiety -> more ED and so on in a vicious cycle.

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Please, please, please! This is a horrible sticking point and I appreciate any help you can give me. I guess it all comes down to inner game and that seems to be the most difficult thing to master.

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Also called “impotence,” erectile dysfunction (ED) is a condition in which a man is unable to achieve or sustain an erection during sexual performance. Symptoms may also include reduced sexual desire or libido.

I am in very good physical health. I cycle everyday and do martial arts two times a week. I try to have a balanced diet and buy organic. I don't drink very much and I don't smoke, although I used to smoke weed. Nowadays I will take just a couple of hits when someone offers it to me but that's very rare, like once every 3 months or so. I haven't smoked weed regularly in two and a half years. I do not have any problems with nighttime erections.

These facts have led me to believe that the problem is all in my head. It must be related to depression and/or anxiety. I don't know if I am depressed or not. I know I have been and I know that sometimes I do feel very sad but other times I feel very good! Especially when I am with a woman I am really attracted to and yet... I get ED. And I guess the more ED I experience the more anxiety I feel when a new opportunity for sex presents itself. Read the quote again:

Also called “impotence,” erectile dysfunction (ED) is a condition in which a man is unable to achieve or sustain an erection during sexual performance. Symptoms may also include reduced sexual desire or libido.

I experience the symptons of reduced sexual desire or libido as well, but I am wondering if they really are "symptons" and not causes. In other words, do I experience reduced desire/libido because of ED or do I have ED because of reduced desire/libido? But I guess these symptons or causes or whatever go hand-in-hand with anxiety/depression, so it's all part of a vicious cycle. ED -> anxiety/depression/reduced desire -> ED -> anxiety/depression/reduced desire and so on.

It's not like I have NO desire. I am only going for HB7s and up. I want to have great sex, I want to make them orgasm... I enjoy every part of getting physical with them. But maybe not enough? The animal in me will not come out. A strong possibility is that it cannot until I am very comfortable with the other person. Otherwise I just cannot be in the moment enough. But I do not feel like I can just pass up sex to try and get more comfortable with someone. It just won't work in 99% of cases. Why do I need this comfort anyway? Could I be lacking in testosterone? If that is so, how can I build this up? I was also thinking of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT). Anyone have experience with this?

---------------

Some history:

I used to be really shy and awkward, and I guess depressed as well. Because of this I didn't have sex until I was 22 years old (with my then-girlfriend). I had no sexual problems at all. Even so, like all my previous relationships, this one didn't last more than two months before she broke up with me. I did the whole self-pity thing because that's how I was back then.

A year or two later I was having a fling with another girl and after passing up a few opportunities I decided to infiltrate her woman hole. This was the first time I experience ED. We were unable to have sex and that really frustrated me.

Four or five years passed before I had an opportunity for sex again (I might have passed a couple opportunities up myself). The same thing happened again. No sex. At this point I was really frustrated as you can imagine. I was scared of failing again and that was part of the reason I passed up various other opportunities until I got a girlfriend about 4 years later.

By this time I was 30. The first time we had sex it was amazing! I was really good in bed. She told me I made her cum several times. As you can imagine I was very, very happy! I thought I had overcome my "curse" and indeed I never really had any sexual problems during our two-year relationship. She eventually cheated on me. I won't go into details but the way it happened and the circumstances around it was very tragic. Other unfortunate things happened at the same time, mostly logistical problems related to our breakup. I got very depressed and knew I had to make some changes in myself. This is what led me to pickup artistry.

I am 32 now and have been working on my game for about 6 months. If anyone had told me that one day I would be where I am now I would have told them to shut the fuck up for being a liar. I have got tons of phone numbers, lost track of how many dates I have been on and already had sex with four different girls in this time period. And yet sex is still a sticking point for me.

-------------

I had pretty good sex a couple of times with a girl back in January until I experienced ED one morning (no problems fucking her the previous night). Didn't see her again, not sure how much that had to do with the ED. In April I had really, really good sex with another girl. No ED!!! But didn't see her again because she was a bit bonkers. In June I got ahold of the hottest girl yet, we were both crazy about each other but the sex ended up being shit. She gave me a nice blow job and then I fucked her for about 5 minutes, then... ED. Didn't see her again and pretty sure it was because of ED. I liked her a lot too so I was really sad about it for a couple of weeks.

Now it's July and I just got back from vacation. Met an HB8 and spent a couple days with her. Sex on our first night... but too much ED again. As we were making out I wasn't getting too hard and as she started giving me a blow job I went completely limp. She did manage to get me aroused again. I got really hard and she gave me the best blow job I've experienced. I had to hold back from cumming in her mouth because I still wanted to go in her pussy. So I did but after about 5 minutes I started going limp again. Tried to get in the mood again the next morning but could not get hard. It was very frustrating for me and I imaged for her too. I was happy that she didn't abandon me or change her nice attitude after that. We spent a lot more time together, made out, and I started getting more confident but in the end I couldn't get her in bed again due to logistics. So on our last day together I tried to initiate something in the park. She was all for it but I was not comfortable and could not get hard (note that I had public sex many times with my ex).

-------------

So here I am sitting with a few potential phone numbers and unsure about what will happen next. There has been too much ED in my life but I am not planning on becoming celibate. I will use my opportunities and if I have to keep being embarassed and frustrated so be it. But I think the more this happens to me the more anxiety I have when it's time for sex. More anxiety -> more ED -> more anxiety -> more ED and so on in a vicious cycle.

-------------

Please, please, please! This is a horrible sticking point and I appreciate any help you can give me. I guess it all comes down to inner game and that seems to be the most difficult thing to master.
How often do u watch porn?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:05 pm 
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Also called “impotence,” erectile dysfunction (ED) is a condition in which a man is unable to achieve or sustain an erection during sexual performance. Symptoms may also include reduced sexual desire or libido.

I am in very good physical health. I cycle everyday and do martial arts two times a week. I try to have a balanced diet and buy organic. I don't drink very much and I don't smoke, although I used to smoke weed. Nowadays I will take just a couple of hits when someone offers it to me but that's very rare, like once every 3 months or so. I haven't smoked weed regularly in two and a half years. I do not have any problems with nighttime erections.

These facts have led me to believe that the problem is all in my head. It must be related to depression and/or anxiety. I don't know if I am depressed or not. I know I have been and I know that sometimes I do feel very sad but other times I feel very good! Especially when I am with a woman I am really attracted to and yet... I get ED. And I guess the more ED I experience the more anxiety I feel when a new opportunity for sex presents itself. Read the quote again:

Also called “impotence,” erectile dysfunction (ED) is a condition in which a man is unable to achieve or sustain an erection during sexual performance. Symptoms may also include reduced sexual desire or libido.

I experience the symptons of reduced sexual desire or libido as well, but I am wondering if they really are "symptons" and not causes. In other words, do I experience reduced desire/libido because of ED or do I have ED because of reduced desire/libido? But I guess these symptons or causes or whatever go hand-in-hand with anxiety/depression, so it's all part of a vicious cycle. ED -> anxiety/depression/reduced desire -> ED -> anxiety/depression/reduced desire and so on.

It's not like I have NO desire. I am only going for HB7s and up. I want to have great sex, I want to make them orgasm... I enjoy every part of getting physical with them. But maybe not enough? The animal in me will not come out. A strong possibility is that it cannot until I am very comfortable with the other person. Otherwise I just cannot be in the moment enough. But I do not feel like I can just pass up sex to try and get more comfortable with someone. It just won't work in 99% of cases. Why do I need this comfort anyway? Could I be lacking in testosterone? If that is so, how can I build this up? I was also thinking of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT). Anyone have experience with this?

---------------

Some history:

I used to be really shy and awkward, and I guess depressed as well. Because of this I didn't have sex until I was 22 years old (with my then-girlfriend). I had no sexual problems at all. Even so, like all my previous relationships, this one didn't last more than two months before she broke up with me. I did the whole self-pity thing because that's how I was back then.

A year or two later I was having a fling with another girl and after passing up a few opportunities I decided to infiltrate her woman hole. This was the first time I experience ED. We were unable to have sex and that really frustrated me.

Four or five years passed before I had an opportunity for sex again (I might have passed a couple opportunities up myself). The same thing happened again. No sex. At this point I was really frustrated as you can imagine. I was scared of failing again and that was part of the reason I passed up various other opportunities until I got a girlfriend about 4 years later.

By this time I was 30. The first time we had sex it was amazing! I was really good in bed. She told me I made her cum several times. As you can imagine I was very, very happy! I thought I had overcome my "curse" and indeed I never really had any sexual problems during our two-year relationship. She eventually cheated on me. I won't go into details but the way it happened and the circumstances around it was very tragic. Other unfortunate things happened at the same time, mostly logistical problems related to our breakup. I got very depressed and knew I had to make some changes in myself. This is what led me to pickup artistry.

I am 32 now and have been working on my game for about 6 months. If anyone had told me that one day I would be where I am now I would have told them to shut the fuck up for being a liar. I have got tons of phone numbers, lost track of how many dates I have been on and already had sex with four different girls in this time period. And yet sex is still a sticking point for me.

-------------

I had pretty good sex a couple of times with a girl back in January until I experienced ED one morning (no problems fucking her the previous night). Didn't see her again, not sure how much that had to do with the ED. In April I had really, really good sex with another girl. No ED!!! But didn't see her again because she was a bit bonkers. In June I got ahold of the hottest girl yet, we were both crazy about each other but the sex ended up being shit. She gave me a nice blow job and then I fucked her for about 5 minutes, then... ED. Didn't see her again and pretty sure it was because of ED. I liked her a lot too so I was really sad about it for a couple of weeks.

Now it's July and I just got back from vacation. Met an HB8 and spent a couple days with her. Sex on our first night... but too much ED again. As we were making out I wasn't getting too hard and as she started giving me a blow job I went completely limp. She did manage to get me aroused again. I got really hard and she gave me the best blow job I've experienced. I had to hold back from cumming in her mouth because I still wanted to go in her pussy. So I did but after about 5 minutes I started going limp again. Tried to get in the mood again the next morning but could not get hard. It was very frustrating for me and I imaged for her too. I was happy that she didn't abandon me or change her nice attitude after that. We spent a lot more time together, made out, and I started getting more confident but in the end I couldn't get her in bed again due to logistics. So on our last day together I tried to initiate something in the park. She was all for it but I was not comfortable and could not get hard (note that I had public sex many times with my ex).

-------------

So here I am sitting with a few potential phone numbers and unsure about what will happen next. There has been too much ED in my life but I am not planning on becoming celibate. I will use my opportunities and if I have to keep being embarassed and frustrated so be it. But I think the more this happens to me the more anxiety I have when it's time for sex. More anxiety -> more ED -> more anxiety -> more ED and so on in a vicious cycle.

-------------

Please, please, please! This is a horrible sticking point and I appreciate any help you can give me. I guess it all comes down to inner game and that seems to be the most difficult thing to master.
How often do u watch porn?
Knew that question would come up, forgot to cover it. I am trying to stop it. I have made a few attempts and gone a few weeks without it but then came back to it. I think it has been two or three weeks without porn for me this time. I'm going to try really hard to abstain. Fuck it, I will abstain! But before I was watching porn probably 3 times a week at least, not less, but often more... sometimes everyday, sometimes two or three times a day. Is it possible that I've done irreversible damage to myself?

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It's not the necessarily the porn itself, it's the masturbation. You shouldn't be masturbating more than twice a week, tops. And make sure you don't jack it for at least 2-3 days before you have sex. Eat oysters and other testosterone boosting foods.

Erectile dysfunction is also psychological. I suspect you are worried about sexual performance, penis size etc. Become a master of sex. If you know you can make a girl cum hard, your sexual confidence will improve and so will your boner.


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FTR I still watch porn now WITHOUT masturbating, to build up my testosterone before I go out.


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Your issue is most likely in your head. If you had real ED your pecker wouldn't even get semi erect. You might have desensitized brain to the act of sex along with all the anxiety pressure from thinking about your performance. I reccomend making your own porn. Stay away from the hollywood stuff, its more posinous than you think. Dont masturbate for 2 wks. Only allow ur wife or a real female to turn you on or touch your pecker. Give it enough time and u'll be back on track

Check out forums like pegym & thundersplace for expert advice on the topic


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It's not the necessarily the porn itself, it's the masturbation. You shouldn't be masturbating more than twice a week, tops. And make sure you don't jack it for at least 2-3 days before you have sex. Eat oysters and other testosterone boosting foods.

Erectile dysfunction is also psychological. I suspect you are worried about sexual performance, penis size etc. Become a master of sex. If you know you can make a girl cum hard, your sexual confidence will improve and so will your boner.
Do you know what other foods boost testosterone? I know I can make a girl cum hard because I've done it before. But regardless of that, I still get ED more often than I should.
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Your issue is most likely in your head. If you had real ED your pecker wouldn't even get semi erect. You might have desensitized brain to the act of sex along with all the anxiety pressure from thinking about your performance. I reccomend making your own porn. Stay away from the hollywood stuff, its more posinous than you think. Dont masturbate for 2 wks. Only allow ur wife or a real female to turn you on or touch your pecker. Give it enough time and u'll be back on track

Check out forums like pegym & thundersplace for expert advice on the topic
Hey why do you say it's not real ED? Even if the issue is in my head, that's still technically a valid cause of ED as I've read.

Guys, keep the tips coming. I really need to fix this!

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Do you struggle to get hard when you watch porn?

Say you keep your pants on and put on a really horny porno... Does your dick become rock hard without touching it or does it need "manual encouragement"?


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Do you struggle to get hard when you watch porn?

Say you keep your pants on and put on a really horny porno... Does your dick become rock hard without touching it or does it need "manual encouragement"?
Well I'd have to test it out to answer with 100% confidence but I'm on my no-porn diet :wink:
I think it can become really hard without "manual encouragement" but not always...

I was once at a swinger club and I didn't even get very hard watching other people fuck.

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If you're masturbating too much, stop.

I do it once a week if I don't get any sex at all. If I'm getting laid, I can go more than a week without it.

It's normal to have such things if you haven't been really experienced in getting laid. Once you start getting laid more, you'll notice than you will experience erection normally.


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I've been reading some things here and there and in addition to not masturbating or watching porn, I've decided I will try taking panax ginseng/red ginseng (there is a product that is supposed to be very good called "Ginseng G1000," the bottle is red with a drawing of an asian guy) and rhodiola rosea (a product that should be good is called "Arctic Root").

The good thing is that these products are also supposed to help with things like depression and tiredness, which I think might also have something to do with my ED.

Anyone have experience with panax ginseng/red ginseng or rhodiola rosea?

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I've been reading some things here and there and in addition to not masturbating or watching porn, I've decided I will try taking panax ginseng/red ginseng (there is a product that is supposed to be very good called "Ginseng G1000," the bottle is red with a drawing of an asian guy) and rhodiola rosea (a product that should be good is called "Arctic Root").

The good thing is that these products are also supposed to help with things like depression and tiredness, which I think might also have something to do with my ED.

Anyone have experience with panax ginseng/red ginseng or rhodiola rosea?
i got 1 reccomendation for you. testojack!
if that doesnt work then a good product with bulgarian tribulus since you work out regularly


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I've been reading some things here and there and in addition to not masturbating or watching porn, I've decided I will try taking panax ginseng/red ginseng (there is a product that is supposed to be very good called "Ginseng G1000," the bottle is red with a drawing of an asian guy) and rhodiola rosea (a product that should be good is called "Arctic Root").

The good thing is that these products are also supposed to help with things like depression and tiredness, which I think might also have something to do with my ED.

Anyone have experience with panax ginseng/red ginseng or rhodiola rosea?
i got 1 reccomendation for you. testojack!
if that doesnt work then a good product with bulgarian tribulus since you work out regularly
Can you document personal results with these products?

I have been reading about panax ginseng and the recommended dosage is 600-1000mg per day. According to the supplement facts of Testojack, it only contains 75mg of panax ginseng per serving. I was at the grocery store today and saw some other supplements with panax ginseng, but none of them had over 100mg per serving. I'm going to try Ginseng G1000 since it gives a full 1000mg per tablespoon (what they recommend on the bottle)! Although I guess I could take a spoonful of Testojack capsules but that would feel wrong and maybe it's not safe since it also has a lot of other ingredients (another reason I'd rather try Ginseng G1000).

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I've been reading some things here and there and in addition to not masturbating or watching porn, I've decided I will try taking panax ginseng/red ginseng (there is a product that is supposed to be very good called "Ginseng G1000," the bottle is red with a drawing of an asian guy) and rhodiola rosea (a product that should be good is called "Arctic Root").

The good thing is that these products are also supposed to help with things like depression and tiredness, which I think might also have something to do with my ED.

Anyone have experience with panax ginseng/red ginseng or rhodiola rosea?
i got 1 reccomendation for you. testojack!
if that doesnt work then a good product with bulgarian tribulus since you work out regularly
Can you document personal results with these products?

I have been reading about panax ginseng and the recommended dosage is 600-1000mg per day. According to the supplement facts of Testojack, it only contains 75mg of panax ginseng per serving. I was at the grocery store today and saw some other supplements with panax ginseng, but none of them had over 100mg per serving. I'm going to try Ginseng G1000 since it gives a full 1000mg per tablespoon (what they recommend on the bottle)! Although I guess I could take a spoonful of Testojack capsules but that would feel wrong and maybe it's not safe since it also has a lot of other ingredients (another reason I'd rather try Ginseng G1000).
Now I can see that the product I'm talking about is also sold as capsules, where there are only 16mg per capsule... well I've always heard these things are better taken in liquid form anyway. Just hope it doesn't taste like shit!

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From http://www.helseplus.dk/shop/natur-drog ... 2588p.html
  • Panax ginseng contains many active substances. The substances thought to be most important are called ginsenosides or panaxosides.
  • For erectile dysfunction: Panax ginseng 900 mg three times daily.
Fromhttp://www.helsehelse.dk/produkter/1420 ... ricerunner (in Danish)
(Red Ginseng capsules from Naturdrogeriet)
  • Recommended daily dose (1-3 capsules): 400mg - 1200mg ginsengroot with 26mg-78mg ginsenosides
From http://www.helseplus.dk/shop/natur-drog ... 2588p.html (in Danish)
(Ginseng G1000 in capsules)
  • Ginseng, Panax, 90 capsules., 1500mg ginsengroot (as extract). Minimum 16mg ginsenoides per capsule.
From http://www.naturoghelse.dk/shop/ginseng ... ricerunner (in Danish)
(Ginseng G1000 in liquid form)
  • 1/2 tablespoon 2 times daily gives 1000mg ginsengroot.
From http://en.mr-ginseng.com/ginseng-panax/
  • The recommended dosage for Ginseng is 800mg to 2g per day, depending on the individual's needs and the quality of the ginseng. Some Chinese herbalists recommend up to 2g of Ginseng every day.
From http://www.popeyescanada.com/art_panax_ ... 9qD4_l_t8E
  • Recommended daily dose of oral Panax ginseng is:
    - Fresh Root - 500 mg to 3000 mg (0.5 -3 grams).
    - Dried root powder capsules - 200 mg to 600 mg.
My conclusion: It seems that the recommended daily dose of Panax ginseng is between 200mg and 3000mg per day, depending who you ask. That's a large margin, and I'm guessing these recommendations are based on the amount of ginsenosides (the active substance) in the panax ginseng: the more ginsenosides in the product, the less of it you have to take. I'm still unsure whether it's better to take capsules (more concentrated?) or in liquid form.

I don't understand how Ginseng G1000 can claim to contain 1500mg ginsengroot per capsule (if I understand it correctly), but only 16mg ginsenosides per capsule.

Meanwhile, Red Ginseng capsules from Naturdrogeriet claim 400mg ginsengroot per capsule, which is a lot less, but a whole 26mg per capsule, which is more!

I guess I have more research to do, unless someone can help me out.

By the way, TAKE EVERYTHING I'VE WRITTEN HERE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR, ETC... THIS IS JUST SOME PIECES OF INFO I'VE GATHERED GOOGLING FOR 30 MINUTES...

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