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| Author: | ziki [ Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Change boring subjects? |
There are times when in a group boring topics emerge. And you either have the option of sitting this one out until a new interesting topic pops up, or decide to take part on a topic you don't care or have any valuable opinion, and feel like a hypocrite and completely out of state. How can you avoid these types situations? For example. Many times I'm with my friends they will start talking about sports, and soccer in particular (not to be confused with american football), which i find very boring and uninspiring. So i end up laying aback looking bored and only jump to spam them with useless info. Granted you're with you're pals and you dont need to impress them in any way they have already formd an opinion of you and have accepted to you for what you project, but if there are any hotties around you will look like a bore and out of sync with the party. Other times topics pop up that last more than they should. Like the other day i was with a couple of female friends of mine. We were having a good time talking about various things, when all of a sudden they started conversing on diseases about dogs! And they were both genuinely interested on that. They were like this happens to a dog if you don't buy this collar, then the other went, yes i know i had an aunt whom dog caught that disease. And this went on for 10-15 minutes. And i couldnt find a way to change the topic without seeming like an attention whore, that i needed the spotlight, so i patiently looked at one another hoping this topic would end. Do you guys frequently encounter these situations, and how do you handle them? |
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| Author: | cheezdoodles [ Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
i dont know why you even care. She cheated on you. IMO you should dump her. If you accecpt her cheating you will always be the beta in this relationship. |
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| Author: | ziki [ Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
wrong topic i guess.. |
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| Author: | Natty [ Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
With the girls, just pretend to be interested and ask questions. In a mixed group, the girls are probably going to be getting bored of it to, so use it as a way to isolate a girl or two. Such as, god I'm so tired of talking about soccer, lets run to the liquor store. |
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| Author: | ziki [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
That's smart, hide your boredom behind questions and shift the focus on you by appearing interested. Although you're not really leaving your mark, since you're not really contributing anything, but you don't fade on the background as well, which is the point. Any other pointers, on recapturing the frame, or de-framing? |
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| Author: | Natty [ Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
Start playing on your phone until you find a funny picture on the chive and show it to them. It'll change the subject most likely to something on the humorous upbeat side. |
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| Author: | ZealousR [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
- If you're sitting next to a girl, use kino to examine something about her. - Get up and walk off to do something, like get a drink, go to the store, talk to somebody. - look uninterested, not bored. best done with spread out body language and scoping for something exciting. - Redirect the convo. Sound interested with a question, and relate it to something else after the answer. - If there is a person in the group who seems equally uninterested start a conversation with them, if you project your voice people can be sucked into that conversation as well. * If sitting, direct your shoulders to the person of interest, and strong eye contact. * Project your voice, keep good body language. I prefer hanging with groups of friends but this tends to happen, I'd say don't play with your phone as it makes it seem like you're not part of the group but also not independent enough to create your own fun. If you're bored find something cool to do, people will follow. |
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| Author: | Xoved [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
If I was in your place, I'd just leave the table and roam around alone. Then come back after 5 minutes and enter with an interesting story/topic. I always do it and it works. Sitting there acting not interested would just bore the hell out of the group. Be unique, take a step out and leave the table, maybe go to the bar and ask for good cocktails/drinks, you don't have to order. Chat up with some people and go back to the table telling the group "they make really good cocktails here, heard cocktail "x" is good" then continue by "by the way, I just...". This is completely amazing and it changes the subject without being boring or disrespectful. |
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| Author: | ziki [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
thanks guys for your replies thus far. There have been some sane advice here. But what happens when i was having something else in mind? Like say you're in a closed society where hangout places are the same, same people to hang around, same environment, nothing exciting and inspiring. Then i guess you're screwd huh? There's nothing to be noted, or to create. Like for example i spend part of my week on an island, on my vacation house, and there things move slow. Not much experience, no new stories, etc. Also there, i hang out with this particular group that are teamates in a sport, and there always comes a time where they discuss past matches, and situations that they experienced together. I'm not part of their team so i'm genuinely disinterested and feel out of place when they go there, and even if i successfully break their cycle, they'll eventually going to reenter this frame. I guess that's a dead-end and would only be try hard to do something about it. I'll just have to chill back, and avert redirect my gaze elsewhere till they finish on the subject. |
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| Author: | Natty [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
Let me bring some skeezers out to your island and we will have stories for days. |
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| Author: | Melodical [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
This is surprisingly easy to nip in the bud if it's the girls doing the talking. Regardless of the subject or topic the girls are waffling on about simply interject with the words "Ah that reminds me! From a mans point of view, which do each of you think is your most attractive feature as I've just worked them out and I'm dying to tell you" All conversation will now instantly stop as each one of them wants this very valuable information. Do a short standard cold read but with each trait (we're not talking looks) use an emotional hot word as the prefix or suffix IE "sexy" "sensual" "passionate" "seductive" etc. The coldread gets accepted (that's what coldreadings do) and the trait attribution tags on with it. Now they have to be consistent with their labels and demonstrate "sexy" "sensual" etc behaviour. You've just heightened their receptivity to you. |
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| Author: | ziki [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
Thanx, this appears useful for this kind of situation. Also i have trouble with small talk. I hate when people bring up topics with little or no signicance and importance. How can you handle these types of situations as well. Since the time i've been trying to improve myself i find that i want to connect with everybody and this appears to be more difficult that one thinks. Most people have nothing interesting to contribute, or due to the fact that each of you know little about each other, conversation tends to suffer at initial stages. |
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| Author: | gelberto [ Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
You can first go along with him, let him finish his words to say, and then you can begin to shift the topic. |
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| Author: | Gavlar [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
Remember you are Alpha. You act through your intentions. You lead. You do as you want, when you want. 'You know, I took a masive dump today. Was huge, had to flush it down three times' 'You madame, have successfully bored me. Congratulations, you won't be getting any of this tonight... If thats the best you can do then I'm not impressed.' *Girl says something/anything* 'Ok now you're just a try hard, I'm not that easy lady..' Boom. Instant re frame. Something I've learnt is that if they bore you then they should lose value in your eyes, you shouldnt cling to a boring convo. Start your own topic. You're bored of theirs, So you've decided everyone's gunna talk about yours now. |
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| Author: | OXZO [ Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Change boring subjects? |
Id change that awful dog disease topic, & talk about dogs, pets, pets we had as kids |
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