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Author:  mayweather [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Help: The whole club is my sticking point lol

okay, first a bit on me. i'm a pretty average looking guy. Even in terms of height so I can't really rely on looks in the club.
I have quiet a number of questions. but just need a few quick ones before I go to the deeper stuff.

1)First off, I have a problem hearing in loud music, I partially go deaf for some reason lol i feel it when I leave the club.
2) I also need to talk louder, any sugestions?

Now onto the deeper problems.

I know since i'm pretty average, i have to have my confidence do the talking for me. I have realized that the more I try to talk the more I screw myself. haha just realized the irony in that statement. either I'm not talking loud enough or I can't hear a freakin thing they say and this makes me blank out.
I try to have conversations.
It typically goes like this.

Me: hey
her/them: hey.
me: hows your night going?
her/them:what?
me(shouting):HOWS YOUR NIGHT GOING!
her: okay I guess.
me: what's your name by the way?
her: bla
me: what?
her: bla
me: what? ah fuck it. ************ blank...... *************

I know, this is basic, not a good opener either but even when i try more creative like opinion, compliment. It pretty much follows the same pattern. so i gave up the creatives for basics coz they're faster to say. I'm fed up.

Through watching other guys succeed along with other guys' advice here. I'm thinking of going a different road. Minimal talking, a bit of dancing but more kino. tell me what you think of this.

Scanning: Looking for girls outside the dance floor, alone, looking at their phones, bar, whatever.

Creative opener: Maybe an observation about the club or her. Short conversation, 1 minute max. while keeping laser eye contact.

Stop mid way and say something like, "I hope you can dance, come." and grab her and take her to the dance floor but not asking her, just taking her. I cant dance lol so I make sure we get to grinding ASAP or I'll look like one of those skydancer air puppets lol

maybe getting to the groping and kino. whispering sexual stuff and makeout.

then isolate and have a proper conversation.

bounce.

What do you think of this. be brutal coz i'm getting really frustrated seeing how easy it is for most guys and I want to improve if it kills me. okay that's a bit too far but you know what I mean.
Worst experiences are when a girl you opened and tagged as just being bitchy or whatever ends up making out with another guy a few minutes later who you're probably at the same level or more attractive than and you start to wonder, what the hell did he do or say?
I never want to have that feeling again. it can really throw of my game.

I would also like alternatives. what do you guys do? coz some things are just puzzling to me.

Author:  In$tinct [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help: The whole club is my sticking point lol

Don't fucking talk in the loud club. Find clubs that have a dancefloor but also more quite venues where you can talk. Or just don't go clubbing at all. Clubs are loud, deal with it.

Author:  JimD [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help: The whole club is my sticking point lol

Whenever I game at the clubs, I like to go to the bar area and game girls there. That way if you're talking, she can hear you. (As the music isn't as loud in that particular area.)

On the dance floor, it all starts with the eye. If you really want that girl, your eyes will tell it all, use it to seduce them, get close or she'll do it and say something sexy in her ear, by then dancing with her should come naturally. Keep your hands around her waist and enough to tease her and no more(this is not the time for freeload groping) Your objective is to turn her on enough to where she'll be begging for it. Afterwards take her to the bar and game on.

Author:  Mattr1984 [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help: The whole club is my sticking point lol

Keep the talking to a minimum in loud clubs. Im really working on my club game right now and need practice but this is the main thing.

Also, use the noise to your advantage, use it as an excuse to get really close really fast. After all you just want her to hear. So be confident, get close and talk into her her, then lean back and look her in the guy, but don't step back. You should be right in her space from the second you approach. She can always back away and you have your answer, but make sure you ask the question! ( with your body not your words).

So yeah, focus on your non verbal and practice!

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