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Author:  dauser12 [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:34 am ]
Post subject:  Push and pull/cocky funny too long sticky point
To keep it short, basically from having low confidence i never manage to get out of the flirting stage with girls at work or college unless alcohol and a party is involved. The sticking point is that after months of seeing a girl maybe once a week at work or college and flirting/being cocky funny they seem to play harder to get. Until it feels impossible to turn it around.

Any solutions :shock:
:roll: thanks
Author:  puaninja [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Push and pull/cocky funny too long sticky point
Be more direct. The casual flirting does nothing but allow you to be strung along. Girls are used to guys who go after them, not guys who beat around the bush for weeks and months on end. Being direct also helps to filter out girls who are a waste of time. Let them know you like them early on and see if you can escalate. They'll either give you ioi's or iod's, and you can go from there.
Author:  dauser12 [ Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Push and pull/cocky funny too long sticky point
Thanks for the reply, I'm pretty sure when teenage girls try to trip u up and kick you playfully that they are ioi's but when ever I chat to these girls we just chat in flippancy and sarcasm. Can you recommended any form of escalation? Thanks
Author:  puaninja [ Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Push and pull/cocky funny too long sticky point
Roughhousing bro. This is a really playful form of kino. Just pretend like you are going to pick them up and body slam them or twist their arm behind them or something. Pin them down and tell them you're going to kiss them, but in a very playful non-creepy way.
Author:  AfricanAmber [ Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Push and pull/cocky funny too long sticky point
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Be more direct. The casual flirting does nothing but allow you to be strung along. Girls are used to guys who go after them, not guys who beat around the bush for weeks and months on end. Being direct also helps to filter out girls who are a waste of time. Let them know you like them early on and see if you can escalate. They'll either give you ioi's or iod's, and you can go from there.
Ninja, SO, is it OKAY to telll a girl you like her, or what!?
Author:  puaninja [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Push and pull/cocky funny too long sticky point
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Be more direct. The casual flirting does nothing but allow you to be strung along. Girls are used to guys who go after them, not guys who beat around the bush for weeks and months on end. Being direct also helps to filter out girls who are a waste of time. Let them know you like them early on and see if you can escalate. They'll either give you ioi's or iod's, and you can go from there.
Ninja, SO, is it OKAY to telll a girl you like her, or what!?
AGGHHHH!!!!

I know you are joking, and I get the irony. Clearly, you never tell a girl you like her, at least not in those words. Being direct and sexual is a form of confidence. It's showing the woman that you arent' afraid to let her know exactly what you want. But the reason guys tell girls they really like them is because they are seeking validation. And they want the girl to respond favorably with an ioi so they know they have the green light to proceed. But that's such an AFC way of going about it, and girls know it and are turned off by it. I guess you could say that you can go direct in a pua way or an AFC way.
Author:  AfricanAmber [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Push and pull/cocky funny too long sticky point
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Be more direct. The casual flirting does nothing but allow you to be strung along. Girls are used to guys who go after them, not guys who beat around the bush for weeks and months on end. Being direct also helps to filter out girls who are a waste of time. Let them know you like them early on and see if you can escalate. They'll either give you ioi's or iod's, and you can go from there.
Ninja, SO, is it OKAY to telll a girl you like her, or what!?
AGGHHHH!!!!

I know you are joking, and I get the irony. Clearly, you never tell a girl you like her, at least not in those words. Being direct and sexual is a form of confidence. It's showing the woman that you arent' afraid to let her know exactly what you want. But the reason guys tell girls they really like them is because they are seeking validation. And they want the girl to respond favorably with an ioi so they know they have the green light to proceed. But that's such an AFC way of going about it, and girls know it and are turned off by it. I guess you could say that you can go direct in a pua way or an AFC way.
Haha true that...sometimes it works though if you tell them upfront..for example. Hey i really liked hanging out with you and i think you're a cool person. Thats kind of upfront, but not really, right? and that still kinda tells her that you "like" her
Author:  Speeeeeedy [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Push and pull/cocky funny too long sticky point
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To keep it short, basically from having low confidence
You've answered you're own question. Techiniques will only get you so far, you need to work on your confidence buddy. Join a fight club, go to the gym, play some contact sport. Sport is the source of confidence. There's a reason why the jocks get all the girls...
Author:  White Lion [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Push and pull/cocky funny too long sticky point
You sound like you suffer from fear of escalation. I get it on occasion in Seduction. No biggie, keep the eye on the prize.

You cant do too much C/F as long as you are escalating at the same time. When you do C/F later on you provoke a shit test, which ramps up and solidifies attraction. In fact, I do it intentionally. As long as you are honest and not lying to her it works.

As a general rule, when not drinking/at a party I advise pinging for qualification with a small hoop after your first laugh/attraction bit. See where they are at. Keep cycling attraction with qualifying until you get to large hoops and movement.

This shows you how LITTLE attraction you need, and confirms what attraction you have plus slides you along in the process.

If you do not do qualification for months she already knows you like her because you spend time with her so the qualification loses its efficacy, and can stall or stop a pick up, as in the friend zone.
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