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| Author: | Takeher [ Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | GAMING has become EXPENSIVE for ME!! HELP!!! |
I got very good and improved my game a lot by going out there and throwing myself in the fire. Now for me its pretty simple to get a number and meet up with the girl one day. But my sticking point is all the money i waste. Right now I'm getting paid shit, so bad I shouldn't even be buying $12 drinks at the bar. They mount up. And when i want to take a girl out we end up having so much fun that we stick with each other all day and night. That means we get hungry. We want drinks. we want to go to the movies or play pool or whatever! And all these things we do. I pay for it!! and i do it just because i want to be a gentlemen and not ask her for money or go and get my own movie ticket and be like, "uh yeah bitch.... now get your own ticket..". of Course i know theres smoother ways of getting out of paying for every fucking thing... but I just don't know them. What do you guys do to not pay for shit?? how could i tell her that im not an SPAM in the nicest way possible without seeming cheap and at the same time keep my value up and still having her feel like I take care of her?!!!!! Please give many examples and phrases i could try! or even techniques to get her to want to pay everything for ME. |
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| Author: | Wolfwoodd [ Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:32 pm ] |
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Just be honest without making a big deal about it. Tell her that your money is important to you and that you need to be saving it as much as possible. It's good money management no matter how much or little money you are making. "I'll get this one, you get the next one" works well without making you look cheap. One time I had a girl who would routinely disappear when a check came. I actually called her out on her behavior to let her know it was totally unacceptable. Her jaw hit the floor, but she didn't disappear when the check came anymore after that. Also, if money is tight, then don't buy drinks at bars. That gets expensive. Pre-party at your house and get waters at the bar, or bring a flask. -Wolf |
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| Author: | Shine83 [ Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:04 pm ] |
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here is what i did and it worked for me. I told my girlfriend i will like to visit a castle and she got all excited and then i told her its dover castle and she got more interested. i said i will drive there in my car which would be £60 from leeds calculating diesel prices so she will have to buy food and tickets. first she said no she is a woman and she wont be doing this and i am mean selfish thinking of money etc all sort of bullshit i replied Cool.. i thought I know you more now and we are at this stage where we will share things... I IOD her after 4 mins she said ok she will pay for the ticket and food. But it depends upon how much comfort and rapport level you have with the girl. PS... you dont need any big money to have the girl... REMEMBER girls are emotional creatures you can't win them with a £100 pizza but you can win them with £1.50 icecream... beleive me... |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:26 pm ] |
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There's several things you can do. Tell the girl that you want to go do something, but you don't get paid till friday. You're not saying I'm broke, and you're not saying "I don't want to pay for this", but you are letting her know you won't have money until Friday. You are also letting her know that you basically live paycheck to paycheck, which isn't the most DHV of things to reveal about yourself, but it will let her know you don't have extra money to be throwing around. I recently had some medical issues and I've been dating this girl who is traditional and expects men to pay for everything. She's sensitive to my medical condition so I keep telling her that I've got all these medical bills building up telling her how expensive CT scans are and that I'm worried I won't be able to afford all of it. She doesn't seem to be putting two and two together, because she keeps having me pay for shit. But this tactic could work on other girls, depending on how you do it. The key is to not refuse to buy stuff or say that your broke, but instead talk about personal financial concerns that you are having. Then if the girl isn't getting the hint you can eventually bring it up and be like "You know how I've been really strssed about money lately? I just don't have the extra cash to be going out all the time..." And she'll either offer to start chipping in or she'll just look at you like a dumb cheap whorebag. |
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| Author: | Jack-of-Clubs [ Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:15 pm ] |
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I like Style's 5 lies game with the 'bet' being a drink. Its underhand but I don't want to pay for my own drinks, now do I. That said I don't drink alc so the drink they have to buy is pretty cheap. Say your saving for something cool which is why you can't splash out, rather than saying your too broke. Both leads to you not spending money but one says your smart and have goals the other...doesn't. |
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| Author: | Heartnet [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GAMING has become EXPENSIVE for ME!! HELP!!! |
when I first started gaming I had the same problem. I solved by doing alot of daygame instead of night game. Mostly coffee shops and shopping mails. Its more harder at the beginning but I think is a good alternative then club. Find it really practical and fun. Here is some example to inspire you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlZYmPbc ... ature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFjAb-fv ... sults_main Here some crazy ones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CrQQGMv ... plpp_video |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GAMING has become EXPENSIVE for ME!! HELP!!! |
The best way to avoid this situation, is not to get into money situations, i have been able to game by barely or no spending money, since i never had much... Look at my lay report on the grandmaster style for a sample... Dates: 1.-renting a movie(this is the one i did second most) 2.- Walk at the beach(this one i did third most) 3.-walk at the park 4.- coffee 5.- play video games(never done it, but something that will achieve this goal) any excuse to be at your house or her house(this one is the one i did the most) |
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| Author: | Sexualsorcerer [ Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GAMING has become EXPENSIVE for ME!! HELP!!! |
Some of these guys are giving advice that is mediocre on this, but works. Others are giving better advice. I definately felt the need to give you a reply to this though because I feel I am the expert in this department. I am a shaman and yogi so I have always lived a monastic lifestyle and never had a lot of money, and for the right reasons, so I know how to deal with this very well. But regardless of the need to deal with it, I want to tell you, you dont have to explain your situation. The fact of the matter is that the nature of sociology is changing. You have to looka t what women are doing. They are taking over the top of the totem pole, and still making us pay for everything? We used to do that because we were at the top of the totem pole and women didnt even really work. now they rule the world. So honestly I think they should be paying, not us. But I'm not going to get into politics. I'm going to give you practical advice. When you are the one asking for the date, setting it up, and all that, sometimes it is implied that you will pay. So here is what you do. If you meet her at bar and end up hanging out that night and it turns into somethign like a date, you didnt ask for that or arrange it, so there is no expectations there, just maek sure that she pays for her drinks and you pay for yours, or that there is an alternation. If you meet her on the street and get her number and then game her and try to get her out, or something of that nature, you have to have a first, second,a dn third date plan. These plans should be creative dates. Dates that most men dont do. Things that not only dont cost much, but are unique. Dont do dinner, drinks, movies, museums, etc. Do the beach, a park, a coffee shop (I always do a first date coffee shop, always), those sorts of things. The first couple dates should really be more like hanging out. And its important that you are the one who ends the date, not her. If you seem like you are going to stick around however long it takes, she will see that you are needy. When you do talk about going somewhere that costs money then you ask her: "How do you want to deal with paying?" The women will usually say they will do it "Dutch" style. Idk what that means, but I think it means either half and half, or pay for your own. Either way oftentimes the women end up paying for me, and you know why? Because they want to show me they are strong women who can do that, and they want to test me to see if I am strong enough to handle it. They thought to themselves, "oh this isnt just some guy who is going to pay for everything and roll out a red carpet for me huh? he is going to make me step up to the plate and meet him halfway? Well I'll show him whats what!" Women who you pay for everything with wont respect you. They will have lots, and lots, and lots of fun at your expense. They may or may not have sex with you. Tehy may or may not like you. But you wont know it, cause they will be living it up with you. Until your money runs out. Then they will t hink oh I guess he is not who I thought he was, he is really not that much fun. So start dating with creative dates. Then ask her how she wants to deal with paying. Once you have been on a handful of dates you can start asking her out on fancy ones once in a while and paying and really treating her. And guess what? It will be a real treat, and she will respect it, because she doesnt expect it. When she expects you to pay she doesnt respect it. And its also not sustainable for you. WHen you make her pay you make her really step up to the plate and act like a real woman for you. Because thats what women do these days, they work, and they pay their own way. And what you can do if you want there to be more treating involved, when you ask how they want to pay, say "I think it would be really nice if we took turns treating each other", women usually like that. Oftentimes if I dont want to have a conversation about how to pay, because of something situational, like I was the one choosing the location or something and felt it would be expected of me to pay, is that I will pay for the first thing ordered, and I will do the ordering of it. Then I will ask her to order me something, the payment for which is implied. Understand how that works? Its a serious social dominance move. And the look on teh womans face when she realizes she is not going to take me for a ride and that she is going to have to meet me halfway is priceless. Its like at first a look of being let down that she is not going to take advantage of me, and then a look of reassurance and strength, like yes, this is what a real man would do and expect of me, not to take advantage of him. See they will play mind games with you, and you have to play them back, and when you do they usually will stop, and give you the respect you deserve, and have earned. Once you prove yourself to a woman she will not only respect you but will cherish you, and will actually be wanting to pay for shit for you. I have had multiple relationships where I actually never paid for a single thing because I was so strong and alpha at the beginning and challenged them to meet me there on that level, and they loved it. Women can be seriously gangster man, make sure you win them over so they are working for you, not working you. |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GAMING has become EXPENSIVE for ME!! HELP!!! |
Quote: The best way to avoid this situation, is not to get into money situations, i have been able to game by barely or no spending money, since i never had much... Look at my lay report on the grandmaster style for a sample...
Dates: 1.-renting a movie(this is the one i did second most) 2.- Walk at the beach(this one i did third most) 3.-walk at the park 4.- coffee 5.- play video games(never done it, but something that will achieve this goal) any excuse to be at your house or her house(this one is the one i did the most) ^ again any convo of she paying or half and half IS HORRIBLE ADVISE, women want a guy that does not give them everything but is NOT CHEAP EITHER.....best thing is to avoid this situation... Women are already brainwashed the dude is suppose to pay, all this pua gimmicky crap will backfire on you. A woman will put a guy into 3 categories: A fuckbuddy(here is were you want to be), a possible bf(may delay sex) or a friend(dead zone) you want to come across as the guy that will be the fuck Buddy, doing dates will go against you since now she will put you on the possible boyfriend applicant stack, this causes 2 things: she will screen harder find any flaws to put you in the friendzone 2.- If she is into you she will delay sex... That is why dinner, movie on all of that tradition courtship is kind of suicide... A way to avoid this is to joke around, she brings up movies, you say wtf are we in middle high i want to get to know you... Dinner, this is what i say in a joking manner: " i do not do dinners or dates, for me dates are boring two people with nothing in common in a prison of awkwardness this is what i do: a, b, c, d, e the ones i mentioned before. and then i say, every time i go on a date, i am hungry i order, she orders, take 2 bites and say: " i am watching my weight" ... ---> this is irrelevant is the SUB COMMUNICATION, what i am portraying is attractive qualities: blunt, leadership, different, no needy, not settling etc.... get the point... ^ finally this will help you when you have a relationship, cause the frame is you are here with me money or broke(which is why i despise the lifetime game bullshit), another thing to learn more advance is pimping and fixer upper game, but for now just follow what i say. |
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| Author: | Mago812 [ Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:21 pm ] |
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Quote: "I'll get this one, you get the next one"
And this deal is also fair. (as oppose to life It can add up if you hang a lot. And DO let her pay sometimes, if not for anything else, she will be reminded of you when she will see the hole in the wallet You can just go "You this time, and next one is on me." or vice versa. I never go "Lets split the bill." I hate this one the most (exception is when i'm with a group of people who i know are cheap and the "me this time you next" won't work.) |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GAMING has become EXPENSIVE for ME!! HELP!!! |
Think of all the rich girls out there. Those who have trust funds or their daddy gives them money. And even career women who have decent jobs. It's absurd for the guy to pay for everything especially if money is an issue for him. |
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| Author: | sfwqoruibv [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GAMING has become EXPENSIVE for ME!! HELP!!! |
I'm glad to be living in Europe then. Last time I was at a bar with a friend I met a girl and ordered all of us a drink (me and my friend were alternatively buying drinks all evening). Somehow, because of a miscommunication, the barmaid thought I ordered six beers instead of three and insisted I pay for all of them while I was like "there are a zillion of guys at the bar and they all want beer". I didn't make a trouble out of it because we would soon be coming back for another drink, so I just paid them. The girl saw what happened and thought it was unfair, so she offered to chip in as well and she gave me more money than the price of two beers (!) while this was the first drink I offered her. In the meantime the barmaid told me she still needed one euro, so I took one euro and gave her back the rest of the money. Also, in similar situations, you usually pay a little more (since you pay for the first couple of drinks), but quickly the girls will start ordering drinks for you as well and an unspoken agreement that you order drinks alternately is created. |
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